2005 R1

Deej

Deej

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Well Yamaha is saying 180 hp for thier new R1. How do you think our Busa's will do against em. Just curious. Really think it won't have a chance but thought I'd ask.
 
It's not all about peak horsepower. This has been debated many many MANY times and there's a thread about the liter bikes here...


Basically you have to look at the dyno charts but the busa has a lot more torque than the r1 and the r1 has to be redlining all to hell to produce that power when the busa can pull like there's no tomorrow anything after roughly 7 grand. Plus aerodynamically the busa is a better bike.


You opened a whole can of worms with that question...
 
180hp   whatver

I'll see it, then I might believe it  
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That was what I thought about the hp. Kinda like cars, the big blocks always ruled the street if the hp was even. Tourque is what we all really like to feel.
 
My brothers '04 dynoed @ 148hp or low/mid 150's corrected. From 03 to 04 big jump in hp but I dont think there is much from 04 to 05 so maybe 180 at the crank, dynoed in the arctic circle.



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They make the 180 at the crank with the air box pressurized....150ish at the rear wheel with mid 70's on the torque. Busa makes a couple of HP more with mid to upper 90's on torque
 
...thats what they claim on their website!! ...but thats far from the truth ...
 
HP is jack, Torque is were its at. The Busa is a torque wh*re, that's why it rules the black top.



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Horsepower is a theoretical derivative of torque. It is calculated by multiplying torque by rpm, and dividing the result by 5252. A dyno measures the torque, and calculates the hp. Therefore, one can't be more important than the other, and horsepower isn't what moves anything, torque is.
 
I just don't want to have to shift gears all the time to "keep it on the boil".

I like that the response of the 'Busa isn't so dependant on having the revs as high as possible. You can roll it on from any gear/throttle opening and get a good result.

That's worth more to me than "top end" because it makes the bike effortless to ride - if you're cruising or cranking...
 
I wouldn't trade the torque in the first 1/4 twist of my Busa's throttle for all the huffy @$$ Peak RWHP any liter class engineers wanna conjur up and claim...besides...it's all sales hype..as in...we took all your power from everywhere else and moved it all up here..problem is...if ya don't nut on a rear sprocket the size of a 55 gallon drum lid you couldn't pull a greased string out of a cats @$$. LOL!!!
 
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