Advise needed: how to keep the Busa stable when

[BentValve]

When I swing my butt to the left and right as I make my way thru some switchbacks I find it very hard to keep the Busa from bouncing all around. I never had this problem on my SV650. The weight of the Busa is finally starting to show itself.

I cannot ride the twisties worth a crap on this bike.

What can I do? Before you go off with the tweak your suspension routine lets just forget all that and say the Busa has no adjustable suspension. I am looking for technique advice.

Not to say that tweaking the suspension wont help but I am one of those that believes that its just a tweak...not a solution.

 

[frisbee]

Talk to Kilroy , he has some shock info for improvements.

 

[theemrrdkill]

you didn't discribe the tires.. or what type of .."wear" they have .. I know I slide my said " buttocks" <-- ' aka butt ' all over the place n hang off my "busa' like a monkey in a Zoo on the bars ... and I have yet to ..find any "bouncing" .. but, then agian ..I make sure my tires ..are in good shape ..prior to ..the twisties.. or I dont do it..

 

[BentValve]

Talk to Kilroy , he has some shock info for improvements.

He is the one who suggest I hang my butt off more..and it has helped me lean alot better. Though I am still reluctant to roll on the throttle a bunch.

Shock info?


Say , come on man, make some time and ride to Lolo pass with us! I am hoping Kilroy can make it. I hope he is alright, I have not heard from him in awhile.

 

[BentValve]

Are you at least coming to the drag races on Wednesday? Come on man, I am a drag race newb , I need some support!!

 

[Rhythm]

I find it very hard to keep the Busa from bouncing all around. I never had this problem on my SV650[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a tire balancing problem, BV

I had to say it, man

J/K

 

[BentValve]

Yeah, your sore about it , dont make me rub it in. Let it go and I will too.

 

[Rhythm]

Yeah, your sore about it , dont make me rub it in. Let it go and I will too. [/QUOTE]

 

[BentValve]

Well come on man, youve posted some smart ass #### in about 3 threads as well as PMed me about 2 times with the same kind of remarks. Either #### or get off the pot man.

 

[Rhythm]

Whewww such harsh language

LQQks like I hit a nerve

I saved the PM's of our discussionBV, if you like I can post them .

I dont see where I was giving you shiat. You had a question about purchasing T/B and I answered. Then you went on to say later that you bought your new toy yada yad. Then I asked you to compare the both using your stock axle on the Busa and the Metler T/B and give me your honest opinon on the results.  I even suggested sending you my home jobber if you didnt want to spend the $15 to make one for the comparison test.

So what the fug are you talkn about dude me postn some smart aZZ post, here or on a PM I sent you.

Dude you need some serious help.

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[BentValve]

To tell you the truth I did not understand a good deal of what in the hell you were saying anyways.

Lets just call it a communication problem. Sorry if I misunderstood you and missed what you were trying to get across.

OK? Lets move on.

 

[theemrrdkill]

Whoaaa .. I must of miss'd sumthin ... anywayz ..try " coastin " thru the ..twisties

 

[imoXu]

Suspension settings make a big difference on my bike.

Just started using these, I weigh 180lbs

2WF suspension settings

Need to test em out some more but they have made a large improvement to the bikes handling. The Busa can be a handful in the twisties if you dont have it set up right.

moX

 

[BusaFever]

I don't really understand, stability is the busa's strong point.

If you are bouncing around alot, you probably could dial in some more compression & a touch more rebound. Have you set up your suspension properly? It is very adjustable bro.

Technique advice :
For starters try this...
Ride on the balls of your feet, put the peg on the balls of you feet. Not in the arch of your foot for starters.

Then when carving, hold yourself up with your legs, don't just sit 100% in the seat, let your feet hold 80% of your weight and your seat hold 20%. This will hold your bike more stable trust me.

Ok next if you are going into a lefty, shift to the left side of the bike, hang about 3/4 to 1 cheek off the seat. Press down with your left foot, so that around 60-90% of your weight is on the left peg. (the harder you press, the more your bike will "fall into" the curve. Now with your right leg, push your knee upward into the pocket on your tank.

Get low on your bike. Keep your elbows bent, don't just ride stiff. Don't just countersteer through the corner... I mean push on the left bar to go left... Use your body to steer the bike and put small inputs into the bars! This is the secret man, body position is 90% of twistie riding....


PS I have no idea of what your experience level is, if I have insulted you, I apologize. Just trying to help..

-Bill

 

[BusaFever]

This picture will give you some idea of how body position works. I am of the opinion that a combination of the top right and bottom right pictures works the best. and thats what the Racers do...

Less lean angle means more tire on the road and more reserve left for that unexpected vehicle/pothole/dog/rock/anything else for you to manuever around...

 

[WWJD]

yeah it bounces a LOT when pushed.
- make sure you've tightened your suspension up good and proper
- check tires and pressure... do you ride track PSI or road PSI to tackle twisties?
- SMOOTHNESS is paramount... are you graceful or hyper on your movements, braking, throttle?
- then re-read BusaFever's post

I had the same problem and suspension helped the most

 

[#cruncherbusa]

Nice write up BusaFever, when I rode the Blue Ridge. I thought the busa was relatively calm & stable.

I understand what BV is trying to say here, he wants to work on his techniques instead of keep on trying to "adjust" his bike!

 

[VaBusa]

I've seen UUBusa taking the twisties like a pro (okay, I was waaaayyy behind him, but I HEARD all about it!)...his Busa looks like it was made just to corner, no bouncing, no problems...PM him and see if he can help you out...

 

[BentValve]

Thanks Busafever, that helps, I am familar with the proper cornering teqnique but I never really did undertand that I litterally needed to put that much weight on the inside foot...Ive been pressing on the peg but definately not putting that much weight on it. I will try that out today.

I am of the opinion that a combination of the top right and bottom right pictures works the best[/QUOTE]

Yep those two are about what I shoot for..I think I can lean ok but I am still far from chunking up the sides, aka using the throttle hard/faster corners more lean. I am working on it though.

 

[BusaFever]

Thanks Busafever, that  helps, I am familar with the proper cornering teqnique but I never really did undertand that I litterally needed to put that much weight on the inside foot...Ive been pressing on the peg but definately not putting that much weight on it.  I will try that out today.

I am of the opinion that a combination of the top right and bottom right pictures works the best

Yep those two are about what I shoot for..I think I can lean ok but I am still far from chunking up the sides, aka using the throttle hard/faster corners more lean.  I am working on it though.[/QUOTE]
Your welcome bro!
I am glad to help!
You will get it down in no time... The more weight you transfer to the inside peg, the lower you bike "drops in." The faster you go, the more weight you need to transfer.

-Bill