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Decided to wash my Busa today. Did the normal routine of Spraying S100 and rinsing twice. Dried it off then took it out for a little run to air dry it so I can polish it without having it become a smudge bucket (this thing hides water in the damnest of places). Bring it home and like always i shut it off in 1st gear. However i DID NOT make sure the bike was sturdied by rolling it forward till it stopped while in gear. And this time i'm parked in a part of my yard that does slant downhill a bit. Got off the machine, walked about maybe 5 feet away when I thought I heard the sound of my kickstand moving against concrete. Without thinking I Zipped back to the bike just as it was creeping forward. Grabbed the front brake,got on the machine, rolled it forward a bit till it stopped this time, then sighed relief. Wether I do the metal plate add on or bolt a SHOE to this thing, I am fixing this damn abomination of a kickstand this weekend if its the last thing i do...

speed
 
I don't understand it. Been with my '99 since last June. I have not experienced this one time. Just roll forward in 1st gear till the gear stops the roll, then kickstand it. And never park facing downhill even if it means taking more time to find somewhere else to park.
 
that could have been said better. Take your time and park it correctly. I have '99 and I have not had any problems with kickstand. Are you still rolling to a stop when you jumnp of the bike ??? I dont see how it can just fall over by itself.... maybe some of these hayabusa have minds of their own ?
 
I bet ure glad you're counting your blessings only being 5 feet away eh? Its a hell of a shock when it does actually go over, looks like you have been spared part of that shock.

Well done for saving it like you did! I still cant believe how many people this has happened to lately!
 
I've ridden street bikes for 14 years and never has a bike fallen off its side stand by itself, even my hayabusa!
If you're dumb enough to park your bike on a down hill grade and it falls over then be smart enough and not tell anyone about it.
Are these you guys' first bikes?
 
byhalia

I do nearly the same as you

I come to a stop, where I want to park in first gear, bike running, clutch in.

Stop the bike by kicking down the side stand
Let clutch out
Roll forward untill it stops
Set her over on the stand

This way you are sure its in gear (if it wasn't the engine would keep running when you go to put the sidestand down) and it cant roll forward because you've taken all the slack out of the tranny.

THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT

I'm getting upset now. All these shiny beautiful bikes, scratched, dented and scraped all because.....

'LANTA HELP ME!!!!


NUTS
 
I'm with ya Nuts. Same method. Same results.

All this talk is making me paranoid though. I've never checked the status of my bike so often. And, I've never been so cautious about parking a bike.

Better safe than sorry I guess.
 
I wonder if some of these guys are as careless with their riding as they are with their parking?


It happened to me once quite a few years ago, but at that time it wasn't fashionable to avoid responsibility for stupidity.

It has not happened since, because I realized what was wrong and changed the way I park bikes.

The same guys that are complaining now will be the first to sue Suzuki if their ignition interlock fails and their modded kickstand won't retract, and they crash after riding off with it down.
 
For those above who seem quick to criticise and ridicule others who have had sidestand problems i would say this....

We are all well aware that accidents of this kind are totally our fault and are due to a lack of observation of the finer points of parking on every single occasion. The reason people post their sidestand experiences is because they are usually in a state of disbelief as to what has happened and want to share their feelings with other bike owners who may be perhaps be able to offer some moral support or understanding. I therefore do not find some of the negative comments above particulary constructive or objective.

I've been riding bikes for over 20 years and have to say that the busa is the first bike that I have come across (apart from dukes) where parking has to be given a second or third thought, basically, some bikes have rock solid stands, some don't, the busa doesn't , end of story.

Sure , we know now that we can modify the sidestand (thanks sherm), and yes we know all about parking uphill and in gear. So to those out there with the holyier than thou attitude, take a step back and don't be too quick to rub salt in people wounds cos one day you too may be guilty of human error
 
Let's face it. The easy (some say far too easy) retracting side stands are the logical result of Bike makers being sued repeatedly for making stands that stayed down unless emphatically raised.

Dude drives off with his stand down, turns and crashes. Can't be his fault. Faulty bike. Sue the b******s. Bike makers get tired of this and put interlocks on stand which will kill engine when put in gear.

After a couple of years, interlock fails as most electrical devices eventually do. Bike won't run. Dude disconnects interlock. Bike runs. Dude forgets and leaves stand down, turns and crashes. Not his fault. Sue the b******s.

Bike makers get tired of this and in addition to interlock make stands which will retractquite easily. Ducati even spring loaded theirs(until Y2K)to retract.

Dude rides up and pays no attention to grade or gear. Puts bike on stand, often in neutral. Bike falls off stand. Couldn't be Dude's fault. WHINE ABOUT IT! SUE THE B******S!

As Santayana said, "Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to relive it."

After all the posting about this problem, anyone who still drops his bike like that is a dumba**.

Not saying that couldn't happen to me. I still do dumba** things from time to time. What I am saying is that if it happens to me you won't see me blaming the bike. The blame will be squarely on dumba** me.
 
I agree that blaming the bike for this type of accident is wrong and i dont think anyone has actually blamed the bike outright.
They know that its their fault, what they (and i ) didnt appreciate was how weak the stand is. Now, that doesnt mean i blame the bike, it means that you get it right next time you park and learn from the experience. I dont know of anyone on these boards who has dropped it off the sidestand twice, so your comment about doomed to failure is an interesting comment but unfortunately totally irrelavent in this particular discussion.
 
Mm1, that's what I'm talking about. As long as it hasn't happened TO THEM, they refuse to learn the lesson. Not real smart.

The fact that you missed the relevance reinforces the validity of my point.

I'm not making fun of those who drop their bikes. Nor of those who choose to use Sherm's device. Fine. That's one way of dealing with the problem.

The guys I'm poking fun at are the ones who rant and rave about the stand being defective, etc. It does exactly what it was designed to do, and is that way for a good reason.
 
Ok i understand where you are coming from now, not sure your first posting made the target for your disdain clear.
Anyway, i think we are agreed that dropping the darned bike is a dumb**s thing to do in the first place...Im still waiting for mine to be fixed, the spill was over 4 weeks ago, imagine how dumb i feel riding round with one side shaved off! (if i meet anyone on the road who asks what happeend to my bike, I just tell its war wounds from a scraping with a volvo woman driver at 120 mph, that usually gets me a free beer!)
 
Mm1, it's not really disdain. As I said, I've done it, so I can't get too heavy without including myself.

Tell you a really stupid story;

Dude parks bike running in gear, to mail letter 2 steps away. Looks level, but bike falls off stand.

Dude decides to modify stand, but interlock is in the way; won't allow additional travel.

Dude removes interlock, modifies stand.Rides witout a problem for a couple of years.

Dude goes on group ride. Other guy can't get his bike started, so Dude gets tired of sitting there idling in neutral, puts the stand down. Other guy gets bike started, and Dude fires up his bike and impatiently heads out with stand still down. Didn't crash, but a new rider certainly would have. Not a good thing.

Dude was dumba** me.

Name almost any stupid mistake that can be made on a bike, and I've probably made it.

The only crash I've had in many years of riding was due to parts failure. Bike's fault? Hell NO! I should have caught it before the ride. I check those things now.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: if something bad happens to you or someone else in your position, take whatever action that is possible to avoid the repetition. It is all too easy to just assign blame somewhere else, sometimes with justification.

I'm just pointing out that by assigning the blame to the bike or bike maker, some of the guys may be failing to take personal action to solve the problem.

[This message has been edited by SlowHand (edited 01 July 2000).]
 
These discussions about being a dumb*** reminds of when i tried to ride off with the disklock fitted on my zzr1100...
I actually managed to get my feet on the pegs and ride a couple of feet before rapidly stopping dead and falling over with me on it. That was probably the most embarassing thing ive ever done especially as it was on a main road with hundreds of pedestrian shoppers gawping. What made it worse was that i was so taken aback by it, i just stood and stared at it for about 20 seconds before i realised that i was actually supposed to be atempting to pick the bike up...not a good day back in 95!
 
Same thing happened to me in my drive way not a perfect level drive way small slope. Turned around & being deaf was just fricking lucky . Now i take an extra minute to make sure shes docked!
 
What's a sidestand? My bike does no have one..it has something Suzuki calls one. I was in Bell Suzuki yesterday with a friend who was about to become a Busa owner, I got on his potential new bike and Yes, you guessed it, the shop had left it in neutral! Can't imagine how the thing has been lucky enough to survive all the wannabee's getting on and off of it.

I wrote Suzuki a letter about the stand. As usual they would not recognize that there was anything wrong with it. Told me if I felt there was anything wrong with it to take it to a dealer. I doubt if the dealer I got my bike from would even be knowledgable enough to change a sidestand!

Someone said they were paranoid about the stand, well if you own a busa you better be!
 
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