yes, well the crush washer wasnt there, and once i removed the drain plug i saw the fragile aluminum in the threads of the plug....he felt badly and we opted to put in a 1/2 double oversize self tapper and new crush washer. he called a dealer and well a new pan is 120 dollars. so this seems like it'll hold it and maybe we will replace it in the fall....one thing i can say is the drain plug was way over tourqued from the factory. like when the drain plug was being loosened it actually made a pop sound then broke loose. several of the fasteners are way over tourqed.....