Att. all Carbon Based Life Forms
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OB_Mr Bear
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Somebody does good work!!
OB_VegasDude
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That looks good.........where did ya get it?
G
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Looks like there will be one less copper/silver Busa on the road? At least you'll be easy to spot!
OB_Cycle Stuff
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Parts are made from Czechoslovakia not Yoyodyne!! Looks good Jeff, very unique.
OB_KawAbuser
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I have seen these parts first hand in the pictures, over two months ago. These Czech carbon fiber parts are an outstanding value if you are building a race bike and will be painting most of the bodywork (most racers paint their bikes - sponsors).
These pieces are not OEM replacements and provisions for mounting and integration of any existing OEM panels will not work, it is a pretty much of an all or nothing deal.
The inner cowling attachment configuration is a Czech invention and there is no rear under cowl on any form (winglet by rear tire).
There are no provisions for inner cowling panels, mirrors, fairing stays, turn signal or tail light, windscreen, rear under cowl (part in front of r tire). Or any even pre-drilled holes to assemble panels to one another.
Not much of a concern for a drag or track bike, and they are very inexpensive. If your time is relatively free and you can do the installation yourself they represent an outstanding value. If you have to hire the work out, the labor could easily cost more than the panels themselves rather quickly.
The Czechs also make carbon fiber ram air ducts, I purchased two sets of these to use on Busa's I am working on presently, and the ram air ducts present some challenges in their installation (no mounting points for the fuse box) and major screw interferance with the OEM nose and lower panels.
The airducts are of a greater volume and a smoother shape.
- How hard is it to install an air duct? (make fuse box brackets and configure some brainstorm around the screw interferance issues)
I have seen and felt these panels in December
so I am not speaking from just seeing a picture only.
The A-TECH and the Czech parts as similar as apples to oranges. A-TECH is superior street bodywork and the Czech parts are a great value as race bodywork.
Straight from the original carbon junkie himself, CarbonAbuser.
Have you seen the carbon fiber wallets from Airtech?
[This message has been edited by KawAbuser (edited 28 February 2000).]
These pieces are not OEM replacements and provisions for mounting and integration of any existing OEM panels will not work, it is a pretty much of an all or nothing deal.
The inner cowling attachment configuration is a Czech invention and there is no rear under cowl on any form (winglet by rear tire).
There are no provisions for inner cowling panels, mirrors, fairing stays, turn signal or tail light, windscreen, rear under cowl (part in front of r tire). Or any even pre-drilled holes to assemble panels to one another.
Not much of a concern for a drag or track bike, and they are very inexpensive. If your time is relatively free and you can do the installation yourself they represent an outstanding value. If you have to hire the work out, the labor could easily cost more than the panels themselves rather quickly.
The Czechs also make carbon fiber ram air ducts, I purchased two sets of these to use on Busa's I am working on presently, and the ram air ducts present some challenges in their installation (no mounting points for the fuse box) and major screw interferance with the OEM nose and lower panels.
The airducts are of a greater volume and a smoother shape.
- How hard is it to install an air duct? (make fuse box brackets and configure some brainstorm around the screw interferance issues)
I have seen and felt these panels in December
so I am not speaking from just seeing a picture only.
The A-TECH and the Czech parts as similar as apples to oranges. A-TECH is superior street bodywork and the Czech parts are a great value as race bodywork.
Straight from the original carbon junkie himself, CarbonAbuser.
Have you seen the carbon fiber wallets from Airtech?
[This message has been edited by KawAbuser (edited 28 February 2000).]
OB_suiciderider
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No thanks!!! To each his/her own. The description bugly comes to mind.
Ok, I have no problem with the CZ carbon parts, I do plan to paint. Since I do race bike work for our team, it's no trouble for me to install the parts. I don't really care about inner-fairings or stock lights, turn signals, mirrors, etc. Most of these items are just extra weight and will be replaced with smaller lighter parts that I will need to hand fit. It's a "have it my way" type thing.
My real question of the day is about who is importing this stuff. If Yoyodyne has the same parts as I currently have (from another source) then I need to discover why there is a big price diff between my source and yoyo for the same product.
My real question of the day is about who is importing this stuff. If Yoyodyne has the same parts as I currently have (from another source) then I need to discover why there is a big price diff between my source and yoyo for the same product.
OB_KawAbuser
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Jeff who is cheaper?
Jeff if you tell me more about the cf tank I have asked you about for two months I will shed some more light on the CZ CF.
The light set up in the upper is an Aprilia part from a euro 250cc street bike. I doubt it will shed the light of the OEM projector.
It does look nice without the mounting holes, but you will have plenty of holes when you drill for a windscreen and the open inner cowl makes for the ZX12/R1 look of unfinished business.
Take a look at the tight curved sections and look at the black resin, the nose in the very front where the fiber changes direction and the pits in the resin. Like I said before it is an outstanding value for a "race - drag" bike application. For myself it requires too much BS to assemble and less than stellar design/construction.
Jeff what are you going to do for an inner fender with that tail piece?
Jeff if you tell me more about the cf tank I have asked you about for two months I will shed some more light on the CZ CF.
The light set up in the upper is an Aprilia part from a euro 250cc street bike. I doubt it will shed the light of the OEM projector.
It does look nice without the mounting holes, but you will have plenty of holes when you drill for a windscreen and the open inner cowl makes for the ZX12/R1 look of unfinished business.
Take a look at the tight curved sections and look at the black resin, the nose in the very front where the fiber changes direction and the pits in the resin. Like I said before it is an outstanding value for a "race - drag" bike application. For myself it requires too much BS to assemble and less than stellar design/construction.
Jeff what are you going to do for an inner fender with that tail piece?
Yoyo is cheaper by a bunch.
The lights are both 35w, so they will not be brighter (both on will be better than std low beam).
I'm meeting a guy at Daytona on the tank, that's the way he wanted it. I'll hand over my tank and he will make it the mold.
Now for fit and finish, I'm not opposed to have the busa looking like a track bike. I'll paint some of the carbon parts. For the tail section I'll modify the stock parts (even through they have little "divits" where the factory inner fairing mount points are). Another words, I like the "raw" look of a bike, not the slick finished look of an XX for example.
So far the carbon stuff is not mine...I need to decide what to do quickly. I don't want to offend anyone whith my choice or lack of.
[This message has been edited by jeffw (edited 29 February 2000).]
The lights are both 35w, so they will not be brighter (both on will be better than std low beam).
I'm meeting a guy at Daytona on the tank, that's the way he wanted it. I'll hand over my tank and he will make it the mold.
Now for fit and finish, I'm not opposed to have the busa looking like a track bike. I'll paint some of the carbon parts. For the tail section I'll modify the stock parts (even through they have little "divits" where the factory inner fairing mount points are). Another words, I like the "raw" look of a bike, not the slick finished look of an XX for example.
So far the carbon stuff is not mine...I need to decide what to do quickly. I don't want to offend anyone whith my choice or lack of.
[This message has been edited by jeffw (edited 29 February 2000).]