BMW s1000RR engine siezed
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Wayneovich
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Damn that sucks hope he did not void his warranty. what is the break in for those anyway?
thought they were in limp mode till 600 miles?
Thought those things had some sort of electronic program on them to prevent improper (racing)operation before break in was finished ?
Some sort of limiter until it reaches a certain amount of miles
How is it he was blazing down straight with only 180 miles on it ?
Some sort of limiter until it reaches a certain amount of miles
How is it he was blazing down straight with only 180 miles on it ?
Early models didn't have the restriction, it was added after they had been released. It is turned off at the 600 mile first dealer service. But you can choose to void the warranty and have it derestricted when you buy it. Unless the bike had been sitting awhile or only seen the track, sounds like he may have gone that route, and that would really suck.
fastblackblur
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Hope that is not a sign of things to come...
jpowell490
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It is kind of a catch22 in many ways. BMW markets the bike to be a full on race machine pretty much. Then it is sold to the general public, so most people that buy them are taking them straight to the track when they need to be broke in proper before seeing the track.
I agree with what is posted, it isn't rocket science to figure out you cannot run an engine like that so early on.
I agree with what is posted, it isn't rocket science to figure out you cannot run an engine like that so early on.
I remember a thread a while back that showed a cutaway of the valves and valve train running full on.
In the video it talked about all the extensive testing done to make sure it was tough.
Strange how Bimmer cars are almost indestructible and run forever and now their bikes are crapping all over ?
In the video it talked about all the extensive testing done to make sure it was tough.
Strange how Bimmer cars are almost indestructible and run forever and now their bikes are crapping all over ?
If one looks at the power curves on a 1K Gizzer and the Beemer, they are similar until the Gizzer runs out of revolutions. The Beemer is just making more power with more revs, that is a hot motor and it will be interesting to see how long it lasts. Makes me think of my Husky, the first owners manuals suggested replacing the crank bearing at 12,000 miles.
bazooki
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You must be talking about different BMW autos than the ones I know of. BMW has had a reputation for high maintenance cars that tend to spend considerable time in the shop at considerable expense to their owners. Not for the faint of wallet when off warranty.
Dozerdriver
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This is a new motor design that looks very impressive...proper break in should be for all motors. I don't think this one case would be a good enough reason to start bashing them. We will see over time if they are what they claim to be...
very odd, kinda would like to see what is causing the engines to seize, not the first one I've heard of. the motors in these engines are all forged with titanium bits thrown in there. the vavle train is supposed to be solid to 15K rpm as was tested by the engineers. and the engine was detuned 4 times before release becuase they thought the HP curve was to violent to the average person purchasing this bike.
You've been watching too many BMW commercials...I've got one (2003 M5) and they are a HIGH MAINTENANCE machine (but FUN).
I don't think I'd go out and run one like that without breaking it in first to be sure....which is also the reason why you don't buy first year run models...
not sure on the maintenance. All I know is when I travel I get into Mercedes or Bimer taxis that have 100 of thousands of kilos on the clock and they are like 30yrs old.
In Cyprus all they have is Merc 300d for taxis and these things have millions on them.
k03gsxr750
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No one gave him the memo on engine break in? I understand the old "break it in like your gonna ride it" but going to a track day with less than 200mi is well 
.
So my question is, how is he gonna play it off like he wasn't at a track day when he comes in with scrubbed, ball'd up tires and 160 miles with a cooked motor? Gotta imagine BMW has some type of data logger, this may end up a really expensive lesson.
. So my question is, how is he gonna play it off like he wasn't at a track day when he comes in with scrubbed, ball'd up tires and 160 miles with a cooked motor? Gotta imagine BMW has some type of data logger, this may end up a really expensive lesson.
The newer ones are a lot more finicky...
Just so you guys understand how the race guys work, they don't buy a bike of any make or model and gently break it in over the first 600 miles. The bike goes straight from the dealership like a big dog (In the back of a pickup truck) to the dyno where it's given the HARD breakin for an hour or so (The HARD breakin gains an additional 2-3 HP). Some racers will break them in on the track using the HARD breakin system but they all get the HARD breakin.
It's then given all the suspension/brakes etc. upgrades before it's hauled to the track for a few test runs. Usually a few track days before it ever sees a race. This particular BMW passed through these very same hoops.
Every race bike I know has gone through this HARD breakin period and not one Gixxer1K, R1, ZX10 or CBR1000 has siezed up. As a matter of fact I have not seen or heard of any one of the big 4 having a single siezed engine during the warranty period (12 months). That's an entire season of racing!
This single BMW sieze alone does not mean BMW has a problem but this particulay engine did have a problem. So I understand, the BMW dealer is replacing the engine today from a floor bike and the race bike will be back on the track for tomorrow's WMRRA race in Seattle.
I'll keep you guys up on how the second engine works out!
It's then given all the suspension/brakes etc. upgrades before it's hauled to the track for a few test runs. Usually a few track days before it ever sees a race. This particular BMW passed through these very same hoops.
Every race bike I know has gone through this HARD breakin period and not one Gixxer1K, R1, ZX10 or CBR1000 has siezed up. As a matter of fact I have not seen or heard of any one of the big 4 having a single siezed engine during the warranty period (12 months). That's an entire season of racing!
This single BMW sieze alone does not mean BMW has a problem but this particulay engine did have a problem. So I understand, the BMW dealer is replacing the engine today from a floor bike and the race bike will be back on the track for tomorrow's WMRRA race in Seattle.
I'll keep you guys up on how the second engine works out!
k03gsxr750
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Glad your buddy is getting that sorted out, race bikes and street bikes live very different lives no question there. I was under the impression this was a street bike at a track day.
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