Brocks aftermarket Oil Filter, worth 150$?
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I don't like them, don't want the hassle of having to clean them, just unscrew the regular filter, and screw the new one on, and you're done.
One company pretty much makes all the micron filters. They are rebranded and repacked from there. I use micron filters in our race bikes so I can examine the oil after each outing. Kind of saves you from roasting a motor. They claim there is an additional cooling effect and power increase but that has not been tested or proven yet.
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I have sold alot of them think about it,I sell them for $110 tyd,imagine if you change filter 2-3 times in race weekend or if you ride alot and do service 2 times a month in a year it's paid for itself and still nev er have to buy another..
I have them for kawi and suzuki,and most other sport touring bikes..
I have them for kawi and suzuki,and most other sport touring bikes..
A simple view of both photos shows the difference.
http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/stores/b/brockracing/catalog/ZX14-S1.jpg
Ours is purpose built for racing--physically smaller with additional pipe clearance, lighter weight etc.
Caution- they can actually filter TOO WELL! If you encounter a catastrophic clutch failure, it is important to clean the filter screen-lack of doing so could allow it to clog. There is a bypass technique built in to prevent oil starvation, but it come at the expense of proper filtering.
FYI: there is no better way to spot a bearing failure before it wipes out your engine as the fine filtering can trap damaged babbitt material: Babbitt metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Proper information you can use is also included with any Brock’s purchase.
Brock
Brock's Performance Products
http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/stores/b/brockracing/catalog/ZX14-S1.jpg
Ours is purpose built for racing--physically smaller with additional pipe clearance, lighter weight etc.
Caution- they can actually filter TOO WELL! If you encounter a catastrophic clutch failure, it is important to clean the filter screen-lack of doing so could allow it to clog. There is a bypass technique built in to prevent oil starvation, but it come at the expense of proper filtering.
FYI: there is no better way to spot a bearing failure before it wipes out your engine as the fine filtering can trap damaged babbitt material: Babbitt metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Proper information you can use is also included with any Brock’s purchase.
Brock
Brock's Performance Products
Photo of the Micronic Filter used by Scott's and several others..there are different finishes, polished, painted, anodized but the core is the same. K&P Engineering. K&P Engineering has alot of info on this filter listed on their site.
Frequently Asked Questions
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1) Has the technology been proven?
This technology has been in use for many years and has proven itself in NASCAR, Formula One and the Aerospace industry.
2) What kind of materials are used in these filters?
The filter housing and filter element end caps are carved out of a solid chunk of 6061T6 billet aluminum, which not only looks trick but aids in dissipating heat. The filter element is made from medical grade, type 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth to provide unmatched protection against oil contamination and resultant engine damage. A super strength neodymium rare earth magnet is installed in the top of the filter element found in the spin on model, which provides magnetic pre-filtering of the oil. The adhesive used in the filter assembly process is good to 600 degrees Fahrenheit, far above normal operating temperature of 180 to 300 degrees. The quad-ring gasket doubles the seal between the filter housing and the engine.
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3) How does this type of filtration compare to paper filters?
We sent several common brands of paper filter material off to have them tested for the size of particles they would pass. We sent the material off with no names, just numbers for identification so the lab wouldn't have any idea what brand filter they were testing. The results we got back showed that the smallest particle the various material samples caught ranged between 9 and 20 microns. The LARGEST particle that was allowed to pass through ranged from 48 for the best filter to over 300 microns for the worst filter. Paper filters are rated on averages, percentages and multiple passes, so a 10 micron rated paper filter (as advertised on the packaging) may be letting particles 48 microns and larger through. The medical grade stainless steel cloth that we use is consistent across the entire surface and is rated at 35 microns, meaning nothing larger than 35 microns should pass through the material. Bottom line is we meet or exceed the filtration performance of OEM filters.
4) What Are Microns?
A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That's approx. .00003937 inches.
35 microns is about .00138", (just over one-thousandth of an inch).
The lower limit of visibity to the human eye is about 40 microns.
Pollens range from about 30 to 50 microns
A white blood cell is about 25 microns
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5) How much oil will this filter flow?
A very important dimension of oil filters is the flow rate. It doesn't matter how good the filter media is if the oil is going through the bypass due to a low flow rate. A one-inch square of our filter material flows 1.9 gallons of oil per minute at only 1-PSI pump pressure (70 degrees F). This means the screen we use in our S1 filter can flow 57 gals/minute!
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6) How does the flow rate compare to paper filters?
We have run static pressure tests between our filters and paper filters for an identical application. The stainless steel micronic filter consistently flowed over 7 times more oil for the same time period than did the paper filter (tests were run at 68 degree ambient temperature). Think about your bike during cold startup...nice thick cold oil, trying to get through that oil filter. It is pretty easy to get oil going through the bypass valve during cold startup because of the resistance of the paper oil filter to passing the cold oil. Now think about all the crud that has had a chance to settle to the bottom of the oil pan right where the oil pickup is... just waiting to go through the bypass valve directly to the engine components!
Another thing that can affect the paper filter is moisture. Not everyone is aware that engines get condensation in them. When paper gets wet it swells and may pass even less oil.
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7) Will this filter affect the performance of my engine?
The reduction of backpressure against the oil pump will result in varying amounts of horsepower gain. It depends on your specific engine combination and application. We have see as much as 5 hp gain, to very little or no gain depending on the drag the oil pump is producing in a specific circumstance. It is definitely not going to reduce performance. There are a couple of sample dyno charts in the "technical" tab of this web site.
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Frequently Asked Questions
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1) Has the technology been proven?
This technology has been in use for many years and has proven itself in NASCAR, Formula One and the Aerospace industry.
2) What kind of materials are used in these filters?
The filter housing and filter element end caps are carved out of a solid chunk of 6061T6 billet aluminum, which not only looks trick but aids in dissipating heat. The filter element is made from medical grade, type 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth to provide unmatched protection against oil contamination and resultant engine damage. A super strength neodymium rare earth magnet is installed in the top of the filter element found in the spin on model, which provides magnetic pre-filtering of the oil. The adhesive used in the filter assembly process is good to 600 degrees Fahrenheit, far above normal operating temperature of 180 to 300 degrees. The quad-ring gasket doubles the seal between the filter housing and the engine.
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3) How does this type of filtration compare to paper filters?
We sent several common brands of paper filter material off to have them tested for the size of particles they would pass. We sent the material off with no names, just numbers for identification so the lab wouldn't have any idea what brand filter they were testing. The results we got back showed that the smallest particle the various material samples caught ranged between 9 and 20 microns. The LARGEST particle that was allowed to pass through ranged from 48 for the best filter to over 300 microns for the worst filter. Paper filters are rated on averages, percentages and multiple passes, so a 10 micron rated paper filter (as advertised on the packaging) may be letting particles 48 microns and larger through. The medical grade stainless steel cloth that we use is consistent across the entire surface and is rated at 35 microns, meaning nothing larger than 35 microns should pass through the material. Bottom line is we meet or exceed the filtration performance of OEM filters.
4) What Are Microns?
A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That's approx. .00003937 inches.
35 microns is about .00138", (just over one-thousandth of an inch).
The lower limit of visibity to the human eye is about 40 microns.
Pollens range from about 30 to 50 microns
A white blood cell is about 25 microns
Back to Top
5) How much oil will this filter flow?
A very important dimension of oil filters is the flow rate. It doesn't matter how good the filter media is if the oil is going through the bypass due to a low flow rate. A one-inch square of our filter material flows 1.9 gallons of oil per minute at only 1-PSI pump pressure (70 degrees F). This means the screen we use in our S1 filter can flow 57 gals/minute!
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6) How does the flow rate compare to paper filters?
We have run static pressure tests between our filters and paper filters for an identical application. The stainless steel micronic filter consistently flowed over 7 times more oil for the same time period than did the paper filter (tests were run at 68 degree ambient temperature). Think about your bike during cold startup...nice thick cold oil, trying to get through that oil filter. It is pretty easy to get oil going through the bypass valve during cold startup because of the resistance of the paper oil filter to passing the cold oil. Now think about all the crud that has had a chance to settle to the bottom of the oil pan right where the oil pickup is... just waiting to go through the bypass valve directly to the engine components!
Another thing that can affect the paper filter is moisture. Not everyone is aware that engines get condensation in them. When paper gets wet it swells and may pass even less oil.
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7) Will this filter affect the performance of my engine?
The reduction of backpressure against the oil pump will result in varying amounts of horsepower gain. It depends on your specific engine combination and application. We have see as much as 5 hp gain, to very little or no gain depending on the drag the oil pump is producing in a specific circumstance. It is definitely not going to reduce performance. There are a couple of sample dyno charts in the "technical" tab of this web site.
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Everything you need to know about Micronic Filters...
8) Why do you promote inspecting the filter contents?
Racers and motorheads have been taking their oil filters apart for ages. Our filter makes it much easier than cutting apart messy paper filters. It is a great way to get early signs of what is happening in the engine. By checking the particles that get caught in the filter you can identify abnormal wear and prevent catastrophic engine failure. It's a lot less aggravating to replace a rod bearing that's starting to go, than to be standing next to your machine staring at that same rod sticking out the side of the engine!
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9) I have a high-pressure oil pump and high crankcase pressures. How much pressure will the aluminum filter take?
Our S4 filter has been pressure tested to 1000 psi, and our S1 has been tested to 1500 psi with only slight deforming of the spirol lock and housing. Let us know if you need more than that.
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10) Is this filter environmentally friendly?
With the cleanable, reusable design you no longer will be sending oily paper filters to the landfills (some states don't even allow oil filters to go to the landfills...they must be go to through special, expensive disposal processes). What does come out of the reusable filter during cleaning can be sent to the recycling center with the rest of your old oil.
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11) What are Bypass Valves?
The bypass valve allows oil to bypass the filter material if the engine needs more oil than the filter can pass (in case the filter material gets plugged or can't flow the oil fast enough). With the high flow rate of our oil filter, you have much less chance of the bypass opening at startup and at high rpm operation. See "Flow Rates" above for related discussion.
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12) Why don̢۪t you have an Anti Drain back Valve?
Many filters have a rubber flap over the intake holes that is an attempt to keep oil in the filter and minimize the time it takes to fill the filter when you start the engine (they call it an anti-drain back valve). A test you can perform to see how well this "valve" works is to fill a filter with oil, plug the large center spin on hole with a bolt, lay it on it's side and then see how long it takes for the oil to drain past the rubber flap. We have found (and have read other published tests) that the filter eventually ends up with the same amount of oil in it as if it didn't have the flap, it just takes longer to drain out. If the flap worked as planned it would be beneficial to have the extra oil in the filter at startup. On the other hand, that flap covering the intake holes is one more obstacle the oil has to get by to get through the filter and back to the motor.... something to think about.
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13) How much oil does this filter hold?
Slightly more or less than the stock filter depending on the specific application. It doesn't really make any difference. Continue to use your manufacturers prescribed method of checking to make sure there is the proper amount of oil in the engine (usually via a dipstick).
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14) Where is the filter made?
Proudly designed, engineered, sourced and manufactured in the USA.
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15) How do I install and remove the K&P Engineering filter?
A cup wrench is included with almost all of our spin on filters that mates to the 14 flats machined into the bottom rib of the housing.
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16) What if I accidentally ruin the filter element (I stepped on mine…)?
Not to worry...individual replacement parts are available.
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17) How do I clean the filter?
You can use carb cleaner, brake cleaner, solvent, gas or any other cleaner you have available that cuts oil and is not caustic to aluminum or stainless steel. The debris will be caught on the outside of the filter element, so try to wash from the inside out as much as possible. If necessary, a soft bristle brush can be used to gently clean the surface of the filter elements pleats. Once clean, dry with compressed air if available, or just let the element air dry. You can recycle the cleaning solution with the used oil.
Reference the cleaning instructions tab on the web site for additional information.
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18) How often should I clean the filter?
We recommend the filter be cleaned frequently when first purchased or when engine work has been performed. Many customers notice a larger amount of debris on the filter element at the first oil change as the oiling system gets cleared of debris that paper filters pass or even create (you may see paper filter fibers on the screen surface at the first cleaning). This will give you a feel for how much debris is being filtered out of your machines oil and help you decide how often you want to clean the filter for your application. At minimum, clean the filter with every oil change. Remember, oil is the lifeblood of your motor, keep it clean!
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19) Will this filter affect my warranty?
No. Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, 15 U.S.C. SS 2301-2312 (1982), and the general principles of the Federal Trade Commission Act, a manufacturer may not require the use of any brand of filter unless the manufacturer provides that item free of charge under terms of the warranty. So, if you are told by a dealer that anything other than a specific brand of filter will void your warranty, ask for the statement in writing (you won't get one), and request that filter be supplied free of charge. If you are charged for the filter, the dealer will be violating the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and other applicable law. This is a federal law and the Federal Trade Commission has authority to enforce it, including obtaining injunctions and orders containing affirmative relief. For more info do an Internet search on "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act".
Here is a link to one of the Federal Trade Commission's guides for those offering warranties. Look for "Tie-in Sales provisions". http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty.shtm Here is the text
"Tie-In Sales" Provisions
Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision would require a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to use with the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The following are examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions.
In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc., voids this warranty.
While you cannot use a tie-in sales provision, your warranty need not cover use of replacement parts, repairs, or maintenance that is inappropriate for your product. The following is an example of a permissible provision that excludes coverage of such things.
While necessary maintenance or repairs on your AudioMundo Stereo System can be performed by any company, we recommend that you use only authorized AudioMundo dealers. Improper or incorrectly performed maintenance or repair voids this warranty.
Although tie-in sales provisions generally are not allowed, you can include such a provision in your warranty if you can demonstrate to the satisfaction of the FTC that your product will not work properly without a specified item or service. If you believe that this is the case, you should contact the warranty staff of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection for information on how to apply for a waiver of the tie-in sales prohibition.
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20) Tell me about the sealing gasket.
Our housings are designed and specially machined to utilize a quad ring as the sealing mechanism between the housing and the mounting surface. Quad rings are commonly found in hydraulic applications and have a high reusability factor. Along with our engineered housings, we have achieved burst pressures that exceed 1000 psi. You normally will be able to use the same quad ring for several oil changes. If needed, you can flip the quad ring over and use the other side for an additional oil change. A single quad ring can last for several years. New filter kits have a spare included in the packaging. Quad rings are more sensitive to dirt than the old square gaskets so make sure the mounting surface and quad ring are both free of debris before installing the filter. If you have had a quad ring tear, make sure you don̢۪t have any burrs on the mounting surface, and be sure to lube the quad ring well before installing the filter onto the engine or remote mount. Replacement quad rings should be available through the majority of our dealers, or can be found at hydraulic supply shops. The part numbers are as follows:
8) Why do you promote inspecting the filter contents?
Racers and motorheads have been taking their oil filters apart for ages. Our filter makes it much easier than cutting apart messy paper filters. It is a great way to get early signs of what is happening in the engine. By checking the particles that get caught in the filter you can identify abnormal wear and prevent catastrophic engine failure. It's a lot less aggravating to replace a rod bearing that's starting to go, than to be standing next to your machine staring at that same rod sticking out the side of the engine!
Back to Top
9) I have a high-pressure oil pump and high crankcase pressures. How much pressure will the aluminum filter take?
Our S4 filter has been pressure tested to 1000 psi, and our S1 has been tested to 1500 psi with only slight deforming of the spirol lock and housing. Let us know if you need more than that.
Back to Top
10) Is this filter environmentally friendly?
With the cleanable, reusable design you no longer will be sending oily paper filters to the landfills (some states don't even allow oil filters to go to the landfills...they must be go to through special, expensive disposal processes). What does come out of the reusable filter during cleaning can be sent to the recycling center with the rest of your old oil.
Back to Top
11) What are Bypass Valves?
The bypass valve allows oil to bypass the filter material if the engine needs more oil than the filter can pass (in case the filter material gets plugged or can't flow the oil fast enough). With the high flow rate of our oil filter, you have much less chance of the bypass opening at startup and at high rpm operation. See "Flow Rates" above for related discussion.
Back to Top
12) Why don̢۪t you have an Anti Drain back Valve?
Many filters have a rubber flap over the intake holes that is an attempt to keep oil in the filter and minimize the time it takes to fill the filter when you start the engine (they call it an anti-drain back valve). A test you can perform to see how well this "valve" works is to fill a filter with oil, plug the large center spin on hole with a bolt, lay it on it's side and then see how long it takes for the oil to drain past the rubber flap. We have found (and have read other published tests) that the filter eventually ends up with the same amount of oil in it as if it didn't have the flap, it just takes longer to drain out. If the flap worked as planned it would be beneficial to have the extra oil in the filter at startup. On the other hand, that flap covering the intake holes is one more obstacle the oil has to get by to get through the filter and back to the motor.... something to think about.
Back to Top
13) How much oil does this filter hold?
Slightly more or less than the stock filter depending on the specific application. It doesn't really make any difference. Continue to use your manufacturers prescribed method of checking to make sure there is the proper amount of oil in the engine (usually via a dipstick).
Back to Top
14) Where is the filter made?
Proudly designed, engineered, sourced and manufactured in the USA.
Back to Top
15) How do I install and remove the K&P Engineering filter?
A cup wrench is included with almost all of our spin on filters that mates to the 14 flats machined into the bottom rib of the housing.
Back to Top
16) What if I accidentally ruin the filter element (I stepped on mine…)?
Not to worry...individual replacement parts are available.
Back to Top
17) How do I clean the filter?
You can use carb cleaner, brake cleaner, solvent, gas or any other cleaner you have available that cuts oil and is not caustic to aluminum or stainless steel. The debris will be caught on the outside of the filter element, so try to wash from the inside out as much as possible. If necessary, a soft bristle brush can be used to gently clean the surface of the filter elements pleats. Once clean, dry with compressed air if available, or just let the element air dry. You can recycle the cleaning solution with the used oil.
Reference the cleaning instructions tab on the web site for additional information.
Back to Top
18) How often should I clean the filter?
We recommend the filter be cleaned frequently when first purchased or when engine work has been performed. Many customers notice a larger amount of debris on the filter element at the first oil change as the oiling system gets cleared of debris that paper filters pass or even create (you may see paper filter fibers on the screen surface at the first cleaning). This will give you a feel for how much debris is being filtered out of your machines oil and help you decide how often you want to clean the filter for your application. At minimum, clean the filter with every oil change. Remember, oil is the lifeblood of your motor, keep it clean!
Back to Top
19) Will this filter affect my warranty?
No. Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, 15 U.S.C. SS 2301-2312 (1982), and the general principles of the Federal Trade Commission Act, a manufacturer may not require the use of any brand of filter unless the manufacturer provides that item free of charge under terms of the warranty. So, if you are told by a dealer that anything other than a specific brand of filter will void your warranty, ask for the statement in writing (you won't get one), and request that filter be supplied free of charge. If you are charged for the filter, the dealer will be violating the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and other applicable law. This is a federal law and the Federal Trade Commission has authority to enforce it, including obtaining injunctions and orders containing affirmative relief. For more info do an Internet search on "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act".
Here is a link to one of the Federal Trade Commission's guides for those offering warranties. Look for "Tie-in Sales provisions". http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty.shtm Here is the text
"Tie-In Sales" Provisions
Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision would require a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to use with the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The following are examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions.
In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc., voids this warranty.
While you cannot use a tie-in sales provision, your warranty need not cover use of replacement parts, repairs, or maintenance that is inappropriate for your product. The following is an example of a permissible provision that excludes coverage of such things.
While necessary maintenance or repairs on your AudioMundo Stereo System can be performed by any company, we recommend that you use only authorized AudioMundo dealers. Improper or incorrectly performed maintenance or repair voids this warranty.
Although tie-in sales provisions generally are not allowed, you can include such a provision in your warranty if you can demonstrate to the satisfaction of the FTC that your product will not work properly without a specified item or service. If you believe that this is the case, you should contact the warranty staff of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection for information on how to apply for a waiver of the tie-in sales prohibition.
Back to Top
20) Tell me about the sealing gasket.
Our housings are designed and specially machined to utilize a quad ring as the sealing mechanism between the housing and the mounting surface. Quad rings are commonly found in hydraulic applications and have a high reusability factor. Along with our engineered housings, we have achieved burst pressures that exceed 1000 psi. You normally will be able to use the same quad ring for several oil changes. If needed, you can flip the quad ring over and use the other side for an additional oil change. A single quad ring can last for several years. New filter kits have a spare included in the packaging. Quad rings are more sensitive to dirt than the old square gaskets so make sure the mounting surface and quad ring are both free of debris before installing the filter. If you have had a quad ring tear, make sure you don̢۪t have any burrs on the mounting surface, and be sure to lube the quad ring well before installing the filter onto the engine or remote mount. Replacement quad rings should be available through the majority of our dealers, or can be found at hydraulic supply shops. The part numbers are as follows:
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