clutch mod back torque limiter welding - Who REALLY knows the correct way?

[clean]

Hi guys,

Simple and to the point here - I see these welded in one of two ways.

1. In the middle position between engaged and disengaged with the two pieces flush.

2. In the forward engaged position with one piece higher then the other (how it would be under load).

Now, I have read on this forum that they should be welded flush between engaged and disengaged - I believe this is incorrect as it would prevent the limiter body from fully engaging the clutch basket pawls below, and at the same time reducing the spring pressure as the whole assembly would be sitting "higher".

If welding in the forward locked position you retain the limiter assembly depth fully engaging the clutch basket lugs, and maintaining locked up spring pressure.

can anyone who has done this, and maybe seen both style mods confirm? I wanted to get the forum a definite CORRECT answer as I cant seem to pin this down anywhere. Nobody wants to overpay for one of those billet mods when this could be done for almost free.

 

[202mphbusa]

I replaced mine. But if I was to weld one it would be centered vertical and horizontally and degrees.

 

[Berlin Germany]

@clean

yeah that welding is well known

but it has to be super exact.

an easier way is to mount a spezial ring to immobilize that piece and its job

see at kojak´s homepage ´n shop at

KPS Kupplungs Optimierungs Kit Busa 99 - 07 - Hayabusa Service Power-Shop

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the stronger springs are ALLWAYS! necessary - otherwise clutch will slip
no matter if you do the welding or mount the ring (from kojaks set).

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this 2-piece metal set is not a anti-hopping sytem, but a clutch booster that increases the load on the springs when starting, so that the clutch discs are pressed together a little more than only by the springs - so it's a clutch enforcer.

thats what suzuki germany answered in an email 3 or 4 yers ago

 

[Berlin Germany]

@clean

AND
what you also allways (welded or ring) need,
is the enforcer cross over the sleeve when stronger springs are built in.
otherwise the gen1´s sprocket cover cracks and you´ll have no more clutch - the cover itself is to weak.
not so at the gen2 - there the cover is strong enough.

 

[JeffSyh]

Just order brocks clutch mod or carptener mod I tried both and both work and if you ever wanna return to stock you can.

 

[Lkendale]

What size is the bolt that holds the torque limiter on Gen 2?

 

[Hayabusa Wannabe]

@clean
see at kojak´s homepage ´n shop at

KPS Kupplungs Optimierungs Kit Busa 99 - 07 - Hayabusa Service Power-Shop

Sofort wieder lieferbar !!!!!!! KPS Kupplungs Optimierungs Kit Busa 99 - 07 Dieses Kit optimiert die Kupplung aufs Beste. Der Druckpunkt von Kupplungshebel zum einkuppeln ist eindeutig optimiert . Besseres, schnelleres Anfahren ist nun möglich. Der Druckpunkt bleibt ab jetzt immer derselbe, egal...

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No kit for gen 2? This is almost 1/3 the cost of the Brock's billet replacement part, although shipping probably will even that gap.

 

[Berlin Germany]

What size is the bolt that holds the torque limiter on Gen 2?

neither gen 1 nor gen2 have that limiter.

written answer from suzuki germany

the clutch enforcer , where the 6 stud are mounted (and which should be loctited ! , what all the guys call limiter , has no bolt for holding it
only a bigger nut in the center which goes onto the shaft.

and the gen2 clutch is more or less identical to gen1´s

only the gen3 clutch differs

so the kojak kit fits also at gen2 ,
but all experiances tell us that it won´t be necessary - at gen2 !

 

[Lkendale]

neither gen 1 nor gen2 have that limiter.

written answer from suzuki germany

the clutch enforcer , where the 6 stud are mounted (and which should be loctited ! , what all the guys call limiter , has no bolt for holding it
only a bigger nut in the center which goes onto the shaft.

and the gen2 clutch is more or less identical to gen1´s

only the gen3 clutch differs

so the kojak kit fits also at gen2 ,
but all experiances tell us that it won´t be necessary - at gen2 !

30 mm Bro! Just upgraded to the Brocks Clutch Mod in my 2019 Buse.

 

[GIXERHP]

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