Clutch springs?

01smokes

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Hey guys I have a question about clutch springs. About how much power are stock clutch springs good for with a 200lb rider?
 
@01smokes

drivers weight doesn´t matter if you look at the clutch alone.

drag racing in standard form of the busa ?
no other springs should be necessary neither at the gen1 nor at the gen2.

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and last but not least
for the xxx1st time

the wrongly so called torque limiter (#5 in the fiche below) is, let me call it, a friction enforcer.
when releasing the lever the clutch engages and if lots of power is called up
the big round of #5 (where the 6 long bolts are screwed in) is pulled around 0.5-1.0 mm inside and compresses the springs to increase the friction between the discs.

if after a while the busa starts "jumping" (my so called kangeroo-effect came up) while engaging the clutch,
the flanks/ramps of the 3 notches and docks at#5 are worn/demaged and the entire #5 has to be replaced by new.

CLUTCH_(MODELK2,K3).jpg


OR
you stop the #5´s (LH at the pic below) effect at all by a special disabling alu ring (RH at the pic below)
ring2.jpg

that has to be installed behind it.
if done so stronger springs are imperatively necessary for powerfull starts.

and at the gen1 (only) such a special bracket
Support-Kojaks-Shop.jpg

must be added / mounted over the slave
ungsfedern%20staerker%20-%20Buegel%20an%20Nehmer_3.jpg

to avoid cracks/breaks in the sprocket cover.

the gen1 cover is NOT strong enough for the use of stronger springs.

the gen2´s cover never needs this bracket.

and

no gen2 clutch till today ever showed the "jumping" effect (like lots of gen1) even the system is the same like at gen1.
why? how ? no clue - it´s simply a fact.

so - what gen are we talking about here? 1 or 2 ?
_______________________________________________________________________

if you wanna increase your busa´s power a lot (turbo or so) i personally would recommend to install the "ring" together with stronger springs (and the bracket at gen1) even #5 still works perfect at the moment.
 
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@01smokes

drivers weight doesn´t matter if you look at the clutch alone.

drag racing in standard form of the busa ?
no other springs should be necessary neither at the gen1 nor at the gen2.

___________________________________________________________________________

and last but not least
for the xxx1st time

the wrongly so called torque limiter (#5 in the fiche below) is, let me call it, a friction enforcer.
when releasing the lever the clutch engages and if lots of power is called up
the big round of #5 (where the 6 long bolts are screwed in) is pulled around 0.5-1.0 mm inside and compresses the springs to increase the friction between the discs.

if after a while the busa starts "jumping" (my so called kangeroo-effect came up) while engaging the clutch,
the flanks/ramps of the 3 notches and docks at#5 are worn/demaged and the entire #5 has to be replaced by new.

View attachment 1634574

OR
you stop the #5´s (LH at the pic below) effect at all by a special disabling alu ring (RH at the pic below)
View attachment 1634575
that has to be installed behind it.
if done so stronger springs are imperatively necessary for powerfull starts.

and at the gen1 (only) such a special bracket
View attachment 1634576
must be added / mounted over the slave
View attachment 1634577
to avoid cracks/breaks in the sprocket cover.

the gen1 cover is NOT strong enough for the use of stronger springs.

the gen2´s cover never needs this bracket.

and

no gen2 clutch till today ever showed the "jumping" effect (like lots of gen1) even the system is the same like at gen1.
why? how ? no clue - it´s simply a fact.

so - what gen are we talking about here? 1 or 2 ?
_______________________________________________________________________

if you wanna increase your busa´s power a lot (turbo or so) i personally would recommend to install the "ring" together with stronger springs (and the bracket at gen1) even #5 still works perfect at the moment.
The bike makes between 300-400hp turbo it's a race bike. I'm just trying dumb things out to see what is possible with a factory stock clutch. I've already been 1.32 60' and have gone 166mph in the 1/4 with about 300hp. I was just more curious about if others have gone more mph really. I have heavy duty springs here also but I'm not sure that I actually need them yet.
 
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