Discrimination Sucks
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Holy Cow......
WOW
Well SOMEONE doesnt like motorcycles..
I starting reading the article and was thinking that those rules sounded like the rules for riding on bases here in the US. Next sentence agreed with me.
Been an AMA member off n on since I started riding and think that it is money well spent.
Let's pimp the AMA a little:
Join the AMA!
Been an AMA member off n on since I started riding and think that it is money well spent.
Let's pimp the AMA a little:
Join the AMA!
Just renewed my plates here in Indiana. I was FORCED to give $10 to the Spinal Cord and Brain Injury Fund per motorcycle. $40 bucks out of my pocket for this bullsh!t.
I just don't get why Big Brother is so damn concerned with protecting everybody from themselves. All it does is contribute to overpopulation...we're allowing morons to live and breed more morons. Then you have the lap dog boy scout minions that enforce these asinine laws in order to make their Big Brother proud...one step higher on the hierarchy over the commoners!
It used to be stupid people died in stupid ways and everything was good. Now every product has to have a million safety devices and even TV commericials need disclaimers at the bottom. All those added safety features right down to the warning decals increase the price of the product. Then we allow stupid people to sue these companies which adds to the expensive vicious circle.
Now even rural areas and becoming overcrowded. Hell, look at the comment about 4 million people on that small island.
I just don't get why Big Brother is so damn concerned with protecting everybody from themselves. All it does is contribute to overpopulation...we're allowing morons to live and breed more morons. Then you have the lap dog boy scout minions that enforce these asinine laws in order to make their Big Brother proud...one step higher on the hierarchy over the commoners!
It used to be stupid people died in stupid ways and everything was good. Now every product has to have a million safety devices and even TV commericials need disclaimers at the bottom. All those added safety features right down to the warning decals increase the price of the product. Then we allow stupid people to sue these companies which adds to the expensive vicious circle.
Now even rural areas and becoming overcrowded. Hell, look at the comment about 4 million people on that small island.
If the losers all died, that'd be okay. The problem is, they don't always die, they end up on life support and requiring major medical care, none of which they can pay for 'cause they very often don't have any or don't have enough medical insurance.
Take that article as a warning, people. If bikers don't start volunteering to wear protective gear, pretty soon we won't have a choice. Furthermore, you know how politicians are. If they start restricting one thing, they're going to take it to the extreme and restrict a lot more crap as well, just because.
As for the AMA, if they are in any way opposed to people at least wearing helmets, then they're full of crap. UNLESS, they are also in favor of requiring that all bikers carry sufficient medical insurance for their own extreme needs.
Frankly, I'm not actually all that willing to support or pay for medical expenses (via taxes or increased insurance rates) for some squid who rides irresponsibly.
Remember, if you want freedoms, you have to assume responsibilities. Otherwise, we can't complain when we lose those freedoms, ipso facto.
--Wag--
Take that article as a warning, people. If bikers don't start volunteering to wear protective gear, pretty soon we won't have a choice. Furthermore, you know how politicians are. If they start restricting one thing, they're going to take it to the extreme and restrict a lot more crap as well, just because.
As for the AMA, if they are in any way opposed to people at least wearing helmets, then they're full of crap. UNLESS, they are also in favor of requiring that all bikers carry sufficient medical insurance for their own extreme needs.
Frankly, I'm not actually all that willing to support or pay for medical expenses (via taxes or increased insurance rates) for some squid who rides irresponsibly.
Remember, if you want freedoms, you have to assume responsibilities. Otherwise, we can't complain when we lose those freedoms, ipso facto.
--Wag--
That's the real problem/fear - it will take time, but once it starts it won't stop (the systematic removal of riders rights).
This is partly my fault. I suffered a spinal cord injury on a sportbike a couple years back thus affecting the statistics that USDOT probably uses to justify crap like that.
Sorry ...
Projekt
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Many countries in Europe already observe those types of Protective Equipment Laws. I think the reflective vest is going a bit too far but really see nothing wrong with the rest. So flame me.
I don't think that it will lead to erosion of Rider's rights as only one state in the union allows lane splitting, so that is out.
The statistics quoted are staggering when put into perspective. When you have a doubling of MC registrations in 5 years it only serves to excasterbate every metric taken to quantify injuries. They are merely responding to an epidemic of sorts.
I haven't been to the PR but I believe that all of those new laws will be observed sporadically after the initial crackdown.
I don't think that it will lead to erosion of Rider's rights as only one state in the union allows lane splitting, so that is out.
The statistics quoted are staggering when put into perspective. When you have a doubling of MC registrations in 5 years it only serves to excasterbate every metric taken to quantify injuries. They are merely responding to an epidemic of sorts.
I haven't been to the PR but I believe that all of those new laws will be observed sporadically after the initial crackdown.
Nekosohana
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My thoughts...
The new requirements include:
- Puerto Rico already required helmet use, but the new law also requires gloves, boots that cover the ankles, and long pants. Between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m., riders and passengers must wear a reflective vest.
Not really a fan of the protective vest, and I believe that it's a personal right. But the government of Puerto Rico is trying to reduce the costs of AD&D. Good intention, bad execution.
- Riders must be 18 years of age, and passengers must be at least 12.
Completely agree. 100% For street only.
- New riders must pass a test on the first try to obtain a motorcycle endorsement. If they do not pass, they have to take a government-approved training course.
Good, basically a "prove what you know" situation. Guess there would be less Harley riders out there (I kid, I kid).
- The law adds motorcyclists to the list of school bus drivers, truck drivers, and heavy equipment operators who are subject to a legal blood-alcohol limit of 0.02 percent, instead of the 0.08 percent limit applied to car drivers.
Depending on the situation this could be a +1000 or a -1000000. If they mean all the time, BS. If they mean on a bike AMEN. I don't care what anyone says, most of the stories I hear? Drunk on a bike = dead.
- The law specifically prohibits lane-sharing, an accepted practice in Puerto Rico that can easily cut in half the time of a rush-hour commute in the San Juan area.
I personally think that lane splitting in all it's varied forms should be a right of all motorcyclists. #1 If it was uniform, then we would have less problems with people getting all road rage on you. #2 Uniform application means uniform enforcement.
- The law imposes an additional $10 charge for taking the motorcycle endorsement test and an additional $10 charge for renewing an annual motorcycle registration.
Whatever, I probably pay that and more anyway. Governments have to tax to survive. I have no issue with this...
The new requirements include:
- Puerto Rico already required helmet use, but the new law also requires gloves, boots that cover the ankles, and long pants. Between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m., riders and passengers must wear a reflective vest.
Not really a fan of the protective vest, and I believe that it's a personal right. But the government of Puerto Rico is trying to reduce the costs of AD&D. Good intention, bad execution.
- Riders must be 18 years of age, and passengers must be at least 12.
Completely agree. 100% For street only.
- New riders must pass a test on the first try to obtain a motorcycle endorsement. If they do not pass, they have to take a government-approved training course.
Good, basically a "prove what you know" situation. Guess there would be less Harley riders out there (I kid, I kid).
- The law adds motorcyclists to the list of school bus drivers, truck drivers, and heavy equipment operators who are subject to a legal blood-alcohol limit of 0.02 percent, instead of the 0.08 percent limit applied to car drivers.
Depending on the situation this could be a +1000 or a -1000000. If they mean all the time, BS. If they mean on a bike AMEN. I don't care what anyone says, most of the stories I hear? Drunk on a bike = dead.
- The law specifically prohibits lane-sharing, an accepted practice in Puerto Rico that can easily cut in half the time of a rush-hour commute in the San Juan area.
I personally think that lane splitting in all it's varied forms should be a right of all motorcyclists. #1 If it was uniform, then we would have less problems with people getting all road rage on you. #2 Uniform application means uniform enforcement.
- The law imposes an additional $10 charge for taking the motorcycle endorsement test and an additional $10 charge for renewing an annual motorcycle registration.
Whatever, I probably pay that and more anyway. Governments have to tax to survive. I have no issue with this...
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