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BusaSamurai

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Well time to rant ,rave ,cuss, BitXX,and . Why is it instead of trying to fix a problem all they do is push pills to hide it.
Summary of problem : My wife of 20 yrs .37 years old had a hysterectomy in 1999 . No big deal right Boy was i ever wrong . Thats when it started ...You know a pill for hormones then a pill for pain then a pill for depression .. So everything was going ok I guess .Till about 3 years ago she hit a pothole on the bus she was driving and hurt her back . Guess what more pills stronger pain meds ,and muscle relaxers . Ok so now we are in the ciycle .. Not saying all doctors fault but for the last 3 years there has been 3 rehabs .. She gets out of them and the she says she wont do it again and doctors say they are not gonna prescribe meds again . And guess what happens yes they start again .
Starts out with small dose of this little of that .And where right back where we started . She had back surgery last year
and we all thought great this is gonna fix it .Nope no luck ..I know that some people tolerate pain better then others but dang . Anyone have any idea what its like to set here and watch your wife who you love deeply turn into your average drug addict . Mood swings ,got to where she dont so anything but sit on the couch and watch tv.and pop pills .Have begged and pleaded for the doctors to quit giving her pills to no avail.. She went form making 1500.00 a month driving a school bus with summers off to making nothing and loosing our insurance because it was through here work . So now im fighting with her work to try and get her put on Dissabilty but they are trying to say that because she tried to keep working back when it happened instead of filing back then that it is not there fault . Thats pretty messed up .
Dont understand the system now days . They make it to easy not to do the right thing and just stay high all the time.
Never thought i would see the day where she can abuse the system as far a prescriptions go and they let her do it . ANd i have to sit here and watch it .Im running out of options . Yes i know some will say Fxxx her leave . That would be easy if it wasnt for the fact that we have 3 kids together and there is no one to take care of her except her 75 yearold mother ,. And the fact that when you get married its for better or for worse and sickness and health . I know im a pussy but i have a conscience So i keep fighting day in and day out . Looking for a miracle to happen and she comes back the way she used to be.
My advise for anyone and mean anyone try diffarent avenues before you except pills . They are nothing but a cover and a way for goverments ,Doctors ,insurance companies,and pharmicudical companies to make money .
Sorry for this rant but needed to get it off my chest. read it or dont read it doesnt matter but it felt good to get it out..
 
I understand your problem. I went to a nurse practisioner for a long time who didn't understand how drugs work. She prescribed steroids for about everything and it really hurt my imune system. (proven by the fact that while I type this I have a head cold and bronchitis.) I started going to a real doctor who does know what he is doing and things are getting better for me.

You need to search for a good doc and get your wife some treatment!
 
I own like 15 herbal medicine books, havent taken any synthetic pills in over 15 yrs, which asides for checkups and blood tests I have not seen a real "doctor / pill pusher" for
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Back pains no fun, but drug addiction is really nasty!

You need to find a different doctor. Yoo may want to find a Naturepathic doctor. They're pretty good at helping cope with pain, without drugs. You may also want to look into a Chiropractor. They're no good no hurniated discs, but it sounds like that's been resolved, so they might be able to give her some relief.

If it's been a while, and she's not interested in doing anything, she may be really depressed. It she is, it'll make sense that she might be trying to hide the depression with the drugs. It's easy to do.

God speed!

Doug
 
Hey Bro. I feel for ya. First thing I would do is ween her off the pills,dont have her just stop taking them,ween her off slow.Next,she's got to start exercising,sitting on the couch will make the pain worse.Especially back pain.Find out exactly where she's hurting and concentrate on that,thru whatever means possible. Use different doctors who dont throw the pills around like chiclettes.Get her exersizing.Slow at first then build up.Lots of cardio,lots of core training.The only help the back gets is from strong stomach and oblique muscles. Get the kids involved,it takes a pretty messed up Mom to ignore the needs and wants of their own children. Get them to take her out for walks. Walking is an awesome way to get over pain both physical and emotional. Some forms of depression require medication,but the average person can overcome it with exersize and a healthy diet and goals/tasks/hobbies or a job.If she cant work full time to start,get her to try volunteer work. Low stress,no need to show up everyday etc etc.
Its gonna hurt,but if you still love her,you are going to have to get tuff. Real tuff. The whole fam will have to make sacrifices that will pay off bigtime in the end.

The TV. Its killing yer fam. Cancel the fuggin' cable/satellite spend the extra money on accupressure,accupuncture,IMS,herbs,whatever. No TV,she'll have to walk or read or something better.

If she has no income,thats kinda good the way I see it.Buy fruits and veggies instead of junk food. If she needs a prescription for something it'll have to go thru you(take her credit cards away). You may have to do some shiddy stuff like call banks and have her credit denied.Empty her savings acct into one that only you control. If she has her own car,cancel the insurance. Now she'll have to walk to the store,and wont be able to easily run to the next qwack with prescription pad in his hand.

Try family intervention. Get all the kids,her brothers and sisters,aunts,uncles,parents...anyone who will show up and offer help. Make sure her fam/friends understand there will be heavy consequences to anyone who contributes to negative things for her. Dont bring her pills,dont let her lay around their house watching tv,dont take her away from her walks/exersizes.

Unfortunately,its all gonna come down to you bro. Yer gonna have to play the tuff guy.

If you and her win this war...you'll both be heroes and your children will reap the rewards. If you dont at least try,you're headed for bigger trouble than you have now. You might end up having to play a few pretty heavy trump cards,like moving her out.A family needs to be a unit.If one member is contrary to the good of the unit,they may need to be shown the door in order for them to realise the seriousness of the situation.

Its easy to fall into a routine of unknowingly doing more harm than good. An' example is these 800 pound people you see on the news. They can barely move. When the ambulance is finally called a hole has to be cut in the wall of the building to get them out. They haven't worked for years,they cant go out and shop. BUT someone has been feeding them.Someone goes to the fuggin' grocery store and buys them 8 cases of donuts and a 32 oz pop to wash it down. My point...dont aid a person with a sickness,whatever it may be. Who ever was in that fat person's life should have been bringing them carrots and mineral water and vitamins.

You and the fam have to start only offering her good things,and none of the bad.

In the end,you cant help someone who doesn't want help.Right now,from what you've said,she's not a mother,she's a burden on yer family. Get tuff. If it doesn't work...carrying her thru life isn't the choice I would make.


GET TUFF. Real tuff. You'll have to.

Yer Bro.... RSD.
 
I know FIRST hand what your going through. I too went through the pain pill addiction. It,s not easy to quit, but it CAN be done. I did not have to go to rehab, thank god, but I did do my research and was lucky enough to come off of them on the first try, after a very tough first 72 hours. Good luck to you and your familly.
 
Find a good and respected doctor in India. Offer to pay a small amount of money every year for phone consultation. Build a good relationship with this doctor and get a second opinion or even a third opinion. Doctors in India have a pretty low opinion of American practitioners...their main issue is with the relentless reliance on presciption medications to handle silly byproducts of medical attention.

Too many pills...too many "disorders".

It is really sad that america has allowed itself to get conned by the FDA. HOW can you explain depression in a young child? All these drugs that you take today will affect your children and future generations...stop now!

Put up with a little pain if you must...it is a part of the procedure!
 
Thanks to all for your thoughts and they are being takin into account . I will not give up not now anyways . If it starts getting to where it starts effecting the kids I will pull the plug just dont want to. It is good that they are old enough to understand more would suck if they where young ones. I think the problem is mental . Meaning that her brain has got so used to having the meds that when she tries coming off it tells her body to hurt so it will feed the brain more drugs ..Gonna try and call her doctor again tommorrow and see if we cant stop all the adavant ( lorazapam) and some of her pain meds .(To those who dont know Lorazapam is the worst drug ever invented ..To habit forming and addictive . Makes you not care about everyday life and just gets you by.)try to work on her depression part I think we need to work on the mood before the pain. Have talked to a lawyer and should them all the records and problems over the past 3 years .
They said I would get everything including the kids .But my conciance says to keep trying. So that is what i will do for now.. If it takes selling everything i got I will give it a try at least if I loose no one can say i didnt try.. I just think that there should be somekind of time limit on any medicine . All meds are habit forming and that causes most of the problems ..Trying to get her on Disabilty at the moment so i can make the bills and insurance , So as they say one step at a time..I will keep everyone up dated and thanks again for your comments ..Dont hold back need all the input I can get good or bad..
Peace to All Maurice.(BusaSamurai)
 
Maurice,
I will keep you and yours in my prayers bro. That is a tough position you are in. It's hard to evoke logic into matters of the heart. All you can do is what you feel is right.
In times like these it is most important to have faith. God can change anything or any circumstance in your life. I am not trying to make this a religious statement I am just trying to give some hope to a troubled situation. Sometimes hope and faith are all that we have.
Just so you know, I have lived with a bad lower back for some 23 years now. It keeps getting worse with age. I used to soley find relief in chiropractic care and some holistic meds. In 2001 I injured my back and it has never really healed. I became friends with a chiropractic who practices accupressure. It has brought much relief to my problem. I do take pain medication but try to moderate it so as not to form a dependency on it. I have a high tolerance to pain but unfortunately it seems to have come with a high tolerance to medication as well. Cronic pain is very hard to live with. It can be depressing in and of itself. Chemical dependency is like any other addiction, both physical and mental.
All these thoughts lead me to this. I admire you for sticking with your wife through these difficult times. The only way to get through this and be a family is to get counceling to help with the mental part. Of course there has to be a physical withdrawal off of the meds and the most important is to pray and have faith in God. Remember, whatever is to happen will happen. Keep your heart in the right place and take care of the children.
Take Care Bro,
Anthony
 
I feel for you bro - drug interactions and the "fixes" for them are a slippery slope.

My father was one of the top pharmacologists at Schering-Plough until he retired 10 years ago (he created Claritin). The thing is - for a guy who made drugs for a living and understands human chemistry pretty well, you have to really twist his arm to take a pill. He's in his 70s now and other than a single aspirin a day (it really does fight heart diesese) and medication for hypertension, he refuses to take anything else, and is likely to seek out herbal remedies first, which have helped him twice recently - he had a small case of the gout which was fixed by drinking cherry juice(!), and he's used emu oil as an effective anti-inflam for bursitis which was causing him so much pain he could barely walk.

He'll be the first on to tell you - NO ONE fully understands drug interactions on the human body. Every single person is different, and a drug that works on 80% of the populace (with varying degrees of success) might not work for you. Keep in mind, that's with a SINGLE drug. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE can predict what happens when two or more durgs interact in the human body.

He worked for drug companies for 40+ years, but he doesn't put an ounce of trust into them.

So - get multiple opinions, seek out alternative methods/treatments (start with herbal/natural approaches, and avoid anything "new age"), and try as hard as you can to keep the amount of pharmacuticals you ingest to a minimum (again, within reason - my father wouldn't be here if it weren't for the beta-blockers he's been taking for years. Sometimes it's unavoidable.)

I wish the best of luck to you and your wife.
 
Accupuncture for the back. I had L4,5 injury in 2000. Accupuncture fixed it. Try getting the All natural cures book. Join the site and speak with doctor.
 
a GOOD Chiropactor will do you a world of good! The body WILL heal itself if we don't mess with it too much by taking poor synthetic imitations of natural remedies. All medications are based on natural substances then simulated with chemical based imitations for mass production. Fresh herbs lose their potency quickly which make mass production next to impossible. If you can't mass produce you won't make a profit... Finding a compassionate intelligent physician that believes in homeopathic remedies coupled with a chiropractor and massage therapy and her body can be healed. Hopefully her mind has not been altered too severly. My heart goes out to ya...
 
You are right about most of it being in her mind. No news here but she is fitting the description of a hardcore addict to the T. She needs an intervention, maybe even good rehab clinic... There may be options locally, depending on where you are. However, a hormonally imbalanced woman in pain is like a Dragon priming it's flamethrower... constantly. She deserved effective pain management but in order to begin correcting the problem she needs to drop all of the meds for at least a month to allow her body to return to a quasi-normal state post-hysterectomy. Then talk to a good chiropractor/physical therapist and DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO DO as far as the self-supervised training.
A spinal column with a severely herniated disc can be restored to a near symptom free state by exercising to build up the erector spinae muscles that will in turn swell and contain the herniation. You just have to work at it. Really, you do I know this firsthand due to my own gym indiscretions such as failing to warm up properly for that massive squat routine only to blow out a couple of discs in my Lumbar area. L4 and L5 respectively gotta love that syatica NOT..
Bro, I know I am preaching to the choir but I just have to put my two cents in. Not at all implying that you don't know these things.
 
Thanks for every ones replies and prayers..I'm going to take it one step at a time . Right now im fighting for her insurance they are telling me its going to be 627.00 a month due to being cobra. So im going around with them on that because she was put on a disability at work . I just about would bet that if i ad up all the money I have stuck in this BS i could buy me my new MV Agusta f4 .And a Ducati 999,And 07 Busa . But she is worth it . I wont give up till i have to. Working also on getting her to another Doctor who I found through a friend who only believes in pills as a last resort. Might have to sell My Baby Busa but that can be replaced.Already getting rid of boat (don't use that much any ways) Times like these is when you thank God everyday that you are not hooked on Illegal drugs almost went that way when I was younger but I Had an eye opening experience Called my son ..So please all of you keep up the prayers they are appreciated And i will keep all concerned posted on whats happening...Peace Out
Maurice
 
UPDATE ..
I filed for Divorce yesterday . Not that it makes it any better but i have to get my kids out of the situation . Had to sign a restraint order today and she will be served today or tomorrow I can honestly say this is the toughest decision i have ever made and hurts like HeXX . All the kids want to stay with me and the lawyer say's in my situation I will get the house . might have to pay alimony . but she will have to pay child support so it washes it out . She has been staying at her sisters this week for the comfort of more pills . Told her last Thursday that if she dosed out or passed out again or over took her meds that would be it no questions no more threating . So after she took 60 pills of percocets in 4 days I had to keep my word this time ..tired of the kids seeing her like that . Sorry for rambling but right now I am so stressed i cant stand it . she called my son and said she might come home tomorrow so that tells me they haven't served her yet . When they do she is not allowed back in the house and i have temporary custody of the kids until the final hearing ..never thought i would do it but after 5 years of Hexx had to make a stand .
For those who say when you make your vows they are for life . all i can say is it's a 2 way street and takes 2 to make it work . I tried lord knows i tried ..
thanks for reading if you did . Felt good to get it out .
maurice aka busasamurai
 
(proud dad @ Jun. 09 2007,00:01) Your a good man for trying to make it work.But the kids are the most important.Goodluck.
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Yes seams i need all the luck i can get ...
 
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