Does anyone know what needs to be done here I'm stuck on my rear sets

[2002 FALCON]

Well I got everything installed tonight everything went well and lined up but how are you supposed to hook the brake to the master cylinder it's just flopping around loose and the stud coming out of the master cylinder is not big enough for the hole in the brake lever. I should have just left a stock rear sets on here what a nightmare.

 

[2002 FALCON]

Oh my goodness that I'm hooking up the shifter side and nothing will go into gear it's unbelievable these aftermarket rear sets are bullshit I'm going good time back to stock if anybody wants to buy these let me know, totally lame

 

[2002 FALCON]

No matter what adjustment I do the shifter will not put the bike in the first gear and I cannot up shift into 2nd gear and the shifter sits really high

 

[2002 FALCON]

And a side note the brake lever has no spring to it at all to keep it tight as flops around.

 

[SSGT_B]

what rear sets are those?

 

[2002 FALCON]

what rear sets are those?

I can't remember the name I got them on eBay. I got to go back and look at my purchased items list and see. But no matter what these are pretty straightforward let's just have some Oddities like why wouldn't the brake lever have any spring to it I can't hook the brake lever on the new rearsets to the current plunger on the master cylinder.

 

[SSGT_B]

I would have to see the mounts off the bike to answer that for you. as for shift lever positioning just adjust the rod by spinning it. I had a set that look similar and the brake lever had a spring to retract the lever.

 

[fallenarch]

I had to get a special long rod with the Satos to get it to shift right. Those look like Vortex knock-offs. It should work without a spring. That MC looks pretty rough, that might be your problem.

 

[Mythos]

If you are unable to adjust the shift pedal to the proper height and so that it shifts properly, you need a different length shift rod. You can buy those all over the internet. Sounds like you need a longer one?

You don't need the coil spring to push the brake lever back up. The master cylinder should do that on its own. The coil spring is for if you ever loose rear brake pressure so the pedal doesn't hang down. I'd rather it hang down if I ever loose brake pressure so I know I lost brake pressure. You might try ordering that brake pedal part from Sato. It looks like your rearsets are a copy of Satos and the Sato part that connects to the MC pushrod probably would fit the pedal. Or just buy a set of Satos. They fit perfectly. I have them on my Gen2. $500. Vortex is better and cheaper.

 

[Mythos]

Sounds like they sold you a set that fits a different bike with a different MC. The shift rod they included might work with the rearsets lowered a couple notches. It's not unusual to need a specific length shift rod for individual setups. Buy a few different lengths and see which fits best. That rear brake connector is the real problem.

 

[ROADTOAD1340]

That heim joint looks like it should be on the inside of the gear shift lever .
Hate to be that fella , but evil bay and cheap motorcycle no name brands usually means CHIT .
Your bike is looking good now bro , it would be worth the $ outlay to get yourself a proper brand name set for your beast , from a dealership even , and start over .
I would say enough and put my oem back on till you get the new ones .
Also bro , I would probably forget about flogging that chit set off to any member here , because you dont want to be on anyones chit list , lmao .
Get yourself a new choice set for xmas bro , good luck .

 

[fallenarch]

I found the Vortex very comfortable and ridable. They were pretty close to stock height and fit the bike perfectly with the ability to adjust to a couple of positions with stock links and rods. I rode the Vortex for 5-6 years and a couple of track days and they felt like home. I even had to buy a second set when I grounded the peg so hard I broke the mount (that's what they are supposed to do).

The Satos are very race-oriented. In fact, I had to use the plate that mounts to the frame from the vortex rear sets and then mount the Satos to that to get them low and out far enough for long-ride comfort. That meant replacing the shift rod linkage and a bit of a search for a long enough one.

You can get a spring for the OEM MC from Sato (or you could a couple of years ago anyway), but it's not needed. I think the purpose of the spring is to make the brake action stiffer - a good thing given the amount of power you have in your foot vs. your hand on a lever. But again, not having the spring is fine.

The footpegs are important for controlling the bike at speed and for safety. Note rear sets don't fold up, which can be a negative for casual street riding. The metal used in the rear set is designed to break off before the bike is flipped or the frame is damaged. So what looks like a very simple thing is remarkably precise in design. So as has been said, I wouldn't trust this to a fly-by-night company casting knock-offs with whatever metal they can find.

Don't get frustrated. Modding the bike often involves endless nights in the garage trying to decide if you can make it work or if you need to send it back and try something else. It's all about patience.

 

[VIPER]

Ok so i just recently got rid of my rear sets that looked exactly like that. I tried everything to get them to work right. No matter what i did, they would not fit properly. Either the shifter was way to low and would hit the ground under lean or it was way to high and wouldn't allow shifting. The brake lever was the same. It was either too low or too high. From the looks of my rear brake cyl previous owner have the same issues as you. The stock stem on the master cyl had been cut down in length, and a custom bracket made or installed. I then noticed the rear brakes not even hooked and wouldn't switch the rear brake light as I had been told.

That all being said, either custom length connection get made or you have fallen victim of eBay junk as many have.

 

[2002 FALCON]

I fabricated something that works fine for the brakes. I also got the shifter ironed out so I'm going to put Loctite on 10 everything down and take it for a test drive. Then it all works well I'm going to pull everything off clean it all up master cylinder wise and reassemble. Thanks for all the input I'll post update soon.

 

[Mythos]

I think the purpose of the spring is to make the brake action stiffer - a good thing given the amount of power you have in your foot vs. your hand on a lever. But again, not having the spring is fine.

I have a Spring for my Satos because I thought I might need it. It's a very light spring. You'd never even feel the difference with or without. It's not a lot stronger than the tiny spring on the stock brake light switch.

 

[2002 FALCON]

Well I got in a very quick ride and did some adjustments and man what a major difference across the board for everything I absolutely love this setup. No I just got to pull it apart Loctite everything and finish up my full detail. I even had time to throw on my new mirrors and frame plugs.

 

[Bumblebee]

Glad you got it all sorted out....now you will be the educational resource for the next guy who needs help with these...