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Hey everyone,
First of all, hi, brand new to the forum and this is my first post. I apologize if this post isn't that original, but after searching I only found a lot of posts on west coast builders.
To give a little bit of background, and I'm sure this is sacreligious on this forum, but I'm putting a Hayabusa motor into a race car (I attached a picture of what it will look close to, btw).
I'm actually a pro-driver and I work for a non-profit in DC that works with low-income, minority, youth called KaleidoLINKS. I run an educational program for them which stresses math, physics, chemistry, etc... and our laboratory happens to be race cars and race tracks. Right now we're actually building a Westfield XTR2 kit car from the ground up with the kids. The build is actually almost done, we should, well, we have to have the car done in 3 weeks. You can find out more about it here: KaleidoLINKS - KL Power / KL Racing if you'd like to learn more.
The car will actually be street legal and competing in 2010 in both a National NASA Time Trial Series and the 2010 One Lap of America.
During the course of the build I made a very bad decision, I let someone talk me out of building our motor into a race motor. We found a crashed '06 Busa with 1400 miles on the motor and gearbox for next to nothing. While the bike was unridable, the motor ran fine and you could shift gears, so hopefully everything is working. At the time the thought was, well we have a working motor, why mess with it. But now, we need another motor, another dry sump kit, and that motor built...
We had a very good engine builder who races cars and has his own bike shop which as I understand has built some pretty famous drag racing 1000s, and he was willing to build the motor for us at a large discount, however, as I said, someone convinced me to keep this motor as our "test motor" and build out another motor. Well this backfired on us because if we'd let them just build the motor we would have noticed a part missing from the kit that we're now scrambling to source so that we have a way to oil the motor. Plus the guy who got us in touch with the engine builder just wasn't willing to let anyone talk to him but himself and I've never been able to get him on the phone, and it's just not an ideal situation.
So, now, we're still looking for another motor, and shop to help us out with some things. For instance we're converting to a non-hydraulic cable clutch that will be fitted to our gearshifter, and I'm sure some questions might pop up with that. Or we might need a new cable length, or something that I would imagine most bike shops would find simple to fix. There's also a chance I may even end up building the race motor myself to save money, especially since for the 2nd motor we arent on as big of a time crunch, but it would be really great to have at least a semi-local shop to deal with, ask advice, get parts from, etc... and unfortunately I know next to nothing about motorcycles... lol, they scare me to death.
I'm really looking for a shop somewhere near Washington, DC that has a lot of experience building Busa motors and just working on them in general as I don't have a lot of motorcycle engine experience. If it helps, the build we want to do is probably about 220-240hp but the key is reliability, it must be an absolutely bulletproof motor, which is part of why we're not going for crazy HP numbers. Also, at this point it's looking like we're going to run a 50/50 mix of 93 octane and E85 as a fuel source, which if the busa follows the logic of cars should pretty much just require an 11% increase in fueling across the board. It also gives us a little more flexibility with compression ratios and timing. So a shop that has messed around with E85 would be nice.
So, if anyone knows of a shop that they think it would be beneficial for us to talk to (especially a shop that might be open to working with a non-profit on a tight budget
remember, it's all tax deductible!), I would really appreciate any suggetsions.
Anyway, sorry for going on, and again, please don't hate us for ripping apart a Busa just for the motor... but yeah, I'd appreciate any suggestions anyone here might have.
Thanks in advance,
First of all, hi, brand new to the forum and this is my first post. I apologize if this post isn't that original, but after searching I only found a lot of posts on west coast builders.
To give a little bit of background, and I'm sure this is sacreligious on this forum, but I'm putting a Hayabusa motor into a race car (I attached a picture of what it will look close to, btw).
I'm actually a pro-driver and I work for a non-profit in DC that works with low-income, minority, youth called KaleidoLINKS. I run an educational program for them which stresses math, physics, chemistry, etc... and our laboratory happens to be race cars and race tracks. Right now we're actually building a Westfield XTR2 kit car from the ground up with the kids. The build is actually almost done, we should, well, we have to have the car done in 3 weeks. You can find out more about it here: KaleidoLINKS - KL Power / KL Racing if you'd like to learn more.
The car will actually be street legal and competing in 2010 in both a National NASA Time Trial Series and the 2010 One Lap of America.
During the course of the build I made a very bad decision, I let someone talk me out of building our motor into a race motor. We found a crashed '06 Busa with 1400 miles on the motor and gearbox for next to nothing. While the bike was unridable, the motor ran fine and you could shift gears, so hopefully everything is working. At the time the thought was, well we have a working motor, why mess with it. But now, we need another motor, another dry sump kit, and that motor built...
We had a very good engine builder who races cars and has his own bike shop which as I understand has built some pretty famous drag racing 1000s, and he was willing to build the motor for us at a large discount, however, as I said, someone convinced me to keep this motor as our "test motor" and build out another motor. Well this backfired on us because if we'd let them just build the motor we would have noticed a part missing from the kit that we're now scrambling to source so that we have a way to oil the motor. Plus the guy who got us in touch with the engine builder just wasn't willing to let anyone talk to him but himself and I've never been able to get him on the phone, and it's just not an ideal situation.
So, now, we're still looking for another motor, and shop to help us out with some things. For instance we're converting to a non-hydraulic cable clutch that will be fitted to our gearshifter, and I'm sure some questions might pop up with that. Or we might need a new cable length, or something that I would imagine most bike shops would find simple to fix. There's also a chance I may even end up building the race motor myself to save money, especially since for the 2nd motor we arent on as big of a time crunch, but it would be really great to have at least a semi-local shop to deal with, ask advice, get parts from, etc... and unfortunately I know next to nothing about motorcycles... lol, they scare me to death.
I'm really looking for a shop somewhere near Washington, DC that has a lot of experience building Busa motors and just working on them in general as I don't have a lot of motorcycle engine experience. If it helps, the build we want to do is probably about 220-240hp but the key is reliability, it must be an absolutely bulletproof motor, which is part of why we're not going for crazy HP numbers. Also, at this point it's looking like we're going to run a 50/50 mix of 93 octane and E85 as a fuel source, which if the busa follows the logic of cars should pretty much just require an 11% increase in fueling across the board. It also gives us a little more flexibility with compression ratios and timing. So a shop that has messed around with E85 would be nice.
So, if anyone knows of a shop that they think it would be beneficial for us to talk to (especially a shop that might be open to working with a non-profit on a tight budget
remember, it's all tax deductible!), I would really appreciate any suggetsions.Anyway, sorry for going on, and again, please don't hate us for ripping apart a Busa just for the motor... but yeah, I'd appreciate any suggestions anyone here might have.
Thanks in advance,
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