Hayabusa Starting Issue Once Warm.

Atmsanchez

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I recently bought a 99 busa. when it is cold it starts perfectly, but once it is warm and I turn it off. once I go to start it is when prob starts sometimes. it will start for a sec then turn off. it will do it on and off sometimes it will start fine. once it does start up correctly it will stay on and drive perfectly. it only does it randomly but do it more and more. my shop thinks it might be fuel pump, but I would thing if it was pump it would run bad. Any opinion helps. I am leaving on the shop Monday to go through it.
 
Early busa is notorious for fuel pump problems. Your best bet is an external pump and in line filter.
 
I had so many problems with the out of tank pump, that I just sourced another second hand tank and changed to an in tank setup, makes it a lot less cluttered in the engine bay, that out of tank set up (IMO) was a disaster.
Hope the shop sorts it out for you.
 
I feel you I thought about it but don't want the headache of having to paint and all that. only does it to me sometimes. See what happens.
 
before you invest in the tank, take a look at my vids, i was having the same problem as many do,the basic symptom is that after the bike has been running and at temp, you stop for gas or what ever and your bike acts as if the battery is dead, you wait about 10 min and its fine again. but it wasn't the tank or fuel related, it was my starter gears and starter. the gears got gummed up due to humidity in the oil, and the starter magnets dislodged causing what i think most bikes with these symptoms have. when the starter and its internal parts are cool, the bike starts even though the magnet or more then one are loose, but when the bike is hot the HOT parts of the starter expand and bind. check out my vids

 
It is NOT a starter issue, although the 1999 does have serious issues with starter gears as well. Get a high amperage Lifo battery for prevention against case breakage due to kickback in the starter gear assembly.

Swappng out tanks/external fuel pump mod are unnecessary and overly expensive solution. Complete waste of money and time ( especially repainting and swapping out the tank to a in tank pump!)

I and others have written about this issue extensively. You need to clean out the fuel pump and filters first and if necessary get the stock size replacement fuel pump( hamilton motorsports) on eboy and install a low pressure secondary fuel pump ( as a feeder pump.).

https://www.hayabusa.org/forum/thre...ilter-replacement-no-more-cutting-out.147532/

Once i did the second pump, it NEVER failed to restart in ANY condition.

BB
 
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Not a waste of money if parts are cheap, my replacement tank was £25 on eBay (couple of small dents, couloir is ok), used original injectors and sourced a fuel rail and rigid plastic connecting tube for a further £25.
If the out of tank pump was such a good idea, Suzuki would've kept that set up and it certainly wouldn't be needing an extra (third party) low pressure pump fitted, after stripping that 'out of tank pump' assembly down and Suzuki quoting me £60 for just the filter and 2weeks and extortionate prices for the other consumables inside the pump assembly, I decided to look into alternative fixes and decided that the 'in tank' set up was cheaper (for me) and better in the long run, much simpler and would eliminate, known problems, like vapour lock, expensive filter costs, awkward fuel lines, regulator issues, engine bay clutter the need to fit another pump and not to mention that awful fuel tap/petrol level sender unit in the tank, which is prone to filter gauge blockage and a pain in the neck to shut off (why on earth did Suzuki not cut a slot or leave a protrusion on it?) causing its own problems.
I'm not saying that keeping the old set up is a bad thing but I'd say that other solutions, shouldn't be disregarded or not considered, especially when a particular model changes a set up, like the fuel system delivery.
 
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With the correct rebuild filters and seals you can make an external pump work just like new.
But also replace the the lines, supply and return, they collapse when they get hot!
 
Most people cant buy a tank for 25 pounds so your point is worthless.

If you have go to the cost of getting a tank, repainting it and reinstalling it ( tank swap mod) the cost is hundreds or more.

I did not say the external pump was a good design only that a solution exits for $50 without any tank modifications to correct the design flaw.

BB
 
That's a ridiculous thing to say Busabin, no alternative suggestions to a problem are "worthless", it's an ignorant thing to say.
The uk seems expensive for parts compared to America, so it was more cost effective to go down my route because these parts were available to me, you are right, most people can't buy a tank for £25 but I did, so it's possible, so saying my point is worthless, is a silly thing to say.
There was not a solution below £100 for me, to get my external pump back to optimal efficiency.
This site is for helping people, not criticising advice, no matter how much you disagree.
What I did was less of a modification than fitting a secondary low pressure pump, to accommodate a poor design, my 'mod' is an upgrade not an aftermarket 'workaround'.
 
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Fix it correctly, or make it better! Dont Band aid the situation!

New OEM parts,, Or swap to a internal tank, is the way to go.

Suzuki has left us with slim options, with the design of Both pumps filter set ups!

It at least $200+ Either way!

Do right the 1st time!
 
David

Wasnt criticizing you, no one here can get a tank swap for $40 so posting that you swapped tanks for that price is worthless advice as a solution. Obviously you didnt repaint it to match for $40 which most people have to do as well to match their paint job. That is why it is an overpriced solution for almost everyone else.

Enjoy your ride.

BB
 
You say that your are not criticising me but you tell me that my suggestion is 'worthless', I'm a little confused, as to what your defenition of criticising is?
You say most people won't be able to get parts that cheap, which is true but you also can't generalise people's financial situation either, most people are on this site because they either don't want to or can't afford a garage to fix they're bikes.
I merely offered an alternative but you decided to be disrespectful, which I won't let slide, I'm a mechanic of 30years experience and always happy to help if I feel I have a valid suggestion, I entertain any idea, that with fix a problem, I don't believe in bodginging, which is what I see a secondary pump as being.
Enjoy your ride.
 
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well just to update everyone up to now the bike is at the shop. I am trying the basic rebuild of the fuel pump parts as in filters, lines, seals, etc. go from there see how it goes.
 
Well update, did what I said I previous post. bike still exactly the same I am so pissed. I found out the fuel lines where not changed. GOing to try that next. gonna talk to them about doing the second fuel pump mod that Busabim did see if that fixes it. I am not to mechanical so hoping shop can do this for me.
 
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