HID HEADLAMP MOD

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Here it is! My HID Headlamp Projecktion Mod


I originally planning to retrofit an hid projector from Acura.
But I decided to give what I had, a shot. The stock projector.
The reason for all this is because just by only using a plug and
play hid kit, it is improper because usable light is scattered
everywhere and ends up in oncomming driver's face. But there is
one problem with using hid bulb with stock projector. Because of
the longer hid bulb over halogen, the light output is actually
turned upside down. So you have a cut off on the ground, and
flooding light into the atmosphere, and guess where it ends up?
Exactly, in the drivers face. Here is my remedy for this.
Here is how it is done.

What you will need:
Screw driver - use a flathead you do not care about
philips screwdriver
JB weld
tie wraps
Socket wrench 10mm
and last but not least, your Wifes oven

You know the routine! Disconnect all wires, and bulbs etc so
you have only the headlamp assy. Good idea to clean the outer
lense with soap and water, then dry off. MAKE SURE you check clearance
between your headlamp and top heating coil of the oven before you heat.
Place your headlamp in the oven and bake on 250 degrees.
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Check every
3 mins by taking lamp out, being carefull not to touch the clear lense
and start prying the assy from bottom half. it is held together with
epoxy glue. It took around 10 min for me, to where the glue was soft
and pulled apart easy. Just use the screwdriver to pry at each clip
and it will separate easily.
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Now what you want to do is, back out the screws used to adjust the projector
assy. The will be the lower three bolts. The projector will come out after this.
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Now, what you want to do is use that philips driver and unscrew the 4 small screws.
Doing this will allow for you to remove the projector from the mounting plate,
and turn the upside down, 180 degress. Looking through the back of the projector
the cut off plate should be on the bottom now.
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There are 2 nipples on each side that will allow you to have correct straight

positioning. But you will be unable to use screws to secure it back to the
mounting plate. But this is where good ole JB weld and tie straps come in.
Mix some JB together and spread it over the mounting tabs
where the screws holes are. The projector has a little weight to it.
And I have used it to my advantage. In its drying position, the projector has
to be sitting onto the mounting plate. I found and old cup and sit the projector
onto the cup. The mounting plate overhung each side of the cup to suspend it.
I let it dry for about 7 hours. You can only let dry for 5 hours or less
because heat will make the JB dry quicker.  Wrap a tie wrap around the belly
of the projector, right next to the mountin plate. But leave it loose for now.
use 4 more tie wraps at each corner. From the back of the pro. go under the plate,
and under the tie wrap wrapped around the pro. Now you may tighten up the first
tie wrap, then trim. After that tighten up the other 4 wraps and trim. This along
with JB will for sure secure this setup from moving.
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Now you must place the projector back on to the aiming screws. Fine tuning will
be done later.
I do have another stock projector from my last headlight. I will retrofit that
into the reflector bowl of the lowbeam to run dual projectors. I will paint all
chrome housing with high temp matte black paint for a stealthy look. After all
that pretty chrome will no longer be used.
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Heat your oven again at 250. Now place both halves of your light
assy. together and place in oven. it took only 3 mins for the glue to soften enough
to easily snap together the housing. This is because the glue is exposed.
Here is my setup back together with bulbs
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Now once back together you will have a badass hid projection on the rode with
a very colorfull cutoff. You know how you see Mercedes, BMW etc have that
colorfull twinkle down the rode, well so will you know.
ALSO HERE I HAVE CONVERTED THE PROJECTOR TO BE USED AS LOW BEAM and lowbeam housing
as highbeam until I run dual projectors. Makes for a very trick look.
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OK now lets check out some cutoff pics, color and beams
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This is on the wall at 10ft, remember more color farther you are away from beam
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Here are beams 20ft away. There is a heavy violet on top, then thin sharp
blue on bottom of beam. Along with green, yellow orange etc.
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Your eyes picks up alot more color than a camera, here is light
shown into garage on a bright day.
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and last but not lease, the bike
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BTW it was after 1 am when I started this mod, went to be around 2:30am
just got into a crazy mod mood
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I forgot to mention, I am using 8k bulb in the pics. I would rather have 6k. It is brighter and will have more color at the cutoff line.

BTW WARNING YOU MAY MESS UP YOUR HEADLAMP!!! BE CAREFULL!!
 
Why not just aim them lower? I put the high/low beam plug & play in and i turned both lamps upwards for even higher visability. Nobody has ever flashed theyre high beams at me. Bright lights are cool.
 
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im not sure why you went through all the trouble?re: removing the lens cover, am I missing something here?

I got High and low HID, plug and play...15 min install once nose was off.
 
Im lost also. I really don't know what the accomplishment was, but that was alot of work for " HID " conversion...
 
It seems alot of people are lost about this. But also alot of people do not have alot of knowledge about lighting.
It is VERY improper and ILLEGAL to use an HID plug and play kit. HID lighting and HALOGEN lighting scatters differently.
This is why you need DIFFERENT components to project either light output. Some halogen reflectors seem to
deal with HID better than others. On our bike, it looks like poop! Aiming the light down, either of them in stock form
is not sufficent. Turn the lamp on in the garage you will see light in ALL directions. This is because of the halogen reflector. I have aleady explained the projector's problem with HID buld. The proper way to use HID is to retrofit. So that light is directed where needed. On the road and NOT blinding another driver. As for alot of work, it actually is not alot of work. I found it alot easier to mod this headlight versus a car headlamp. I know it is not as simple as plugging and playing. But doing it the right way is worth it, to everyone on the road aswell as yourself.

Thank those who understands the reasoning for doing headlamp modification.
 
I passed inspection with my HID kit in the halogen housing.  even the guy said, thats a cool light you have.  
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but I agree.  I have a McCulloch HID kit for my wife's Jeep GC and the busa and yes the light does scatter.  I dropped in 6k McCulloch bulbs into my Infiniti FX with true HID housings and the cut off is amazing.  

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Jeep with drop in kit (never been flashed though!!!!!!) pretty decent though.  

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Anyone have any experience with the 12000K Violet HID bulbs ? I was looking at those as a replacement to my 8000K Blue bulb. And I don't think I would risk placing my headlight housing in my oven. I can just see that going sideways on me. And even using the stock projector and a 8000k low beam HID, I still have more light down range than with the stock low beam. A lot more.
 
I understand the reasoning for inverting the projector lens. I recently did an HID install on mine and posted a very detailed description of everything I did, and WHY I did it and got the same kind of responses from a bunch of people. I think a lot of people on here either simply don't understand, or they just mainly look at the pictures and go "why the heck is he doing that?" I wired a timed relay into mine and explained what I was doin, and why I was doing so much wiring and got countless responses from people saying things like "Wow, that's a lot of wiring! Glad I didn't get that kit. Mine was plug and play." I think some people just don't pay attention.
 
I understand his logic, I'm saying I know my luck and that would turn into a nightmare then into the purchase of a new headlight assembly. And since I don't have any complaints about my lighting system I'll stay out of the kitchen.
 
maybe if you had some comparison pics to show the difference between the 2. I can see the cutoff which would make a huge difference in the projection of the light. I will consider this mod later this year.

after reading it a few times, I see that all you do is rotate the projector 180 degree's?
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Actually with the low beam HID there's no need to HID the high beam. I used a yellow bulb for my high beam. Looks slick.
 
I'm assuming the retro fit only applies to the use of the High beam Projector lense and NOT the Low beam housing....
...or does it??

Now I'm confused.
Does this mean I should put the Halogen light back in?

BTW I have a Sylvania Silverstar in the High bean fixture.
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If you install a HID in your low beam, you really don't need it in the high beam. The low beam HID is more than enough.
 
Here it is! My HID Headlamp Projecktion Mod


I originally planning to retrofit an hid projector from Acura.
But I decided to give what I had, a shot. The stock projector.
The reason for all this is because just by only using a plug and
play hid kit, it is improper because usable light is scattered
everywhere and ends up in oncomming driver's face. But there is
one problem with using hid bulb with stock projector. Because of
the longer hid bulb over halogen, the light output is actually
turned upside down. So you have a cut off on the ground, and
flooding light into the atmosphere, and guess where it ends up?
Exactly, in the drivers face. Here is my remedy for this.
Here is how it is done.

What you will need:
Screw driver - use a flathead you do not care about
philips screwdriver
JB weld
tie wraps
Socket wrench 10mm
and last but not least, your Wifes oven

You know the routine! Disconnect all wires, and bulbs etc so
you have only the headlamp assy. Good idea to clean the outer
lense with soap and water, then dry off. MAKE SURE you check clearance
between your headlamp and top heating coil of the oven before you heat.
Place your headlamp in the oven and bake on 250 degrees.
222_0523-600.jpg

Check every
3 mins by taking lamp out, being carefull not to touch the clear lense
and start prying the assy from bottom half. it is held together with
epoxy glue. It took around 10 min for me, to where the glue was soft
and pulled apart easy. Just use the screwdriver to pry at each clip
and it will separate easily.
222_0524-600.jpg

222_0520-600.jpg

Now what you want to do is, back out the screws used to adjust the projector
assy. The will be the lower three bolts. The projector will come out after this.
222_0525-600.jpg

Now, what you want to do is use that philips driver and unscrew the 4 small screws.
Doing this will allow for you to remove the projector from the mounting plate,
and turn the upside down, 180 degress. Looking through the back of the projector
the cut off plate should be on the bottom now.
222_0518-600.jpg

There are 2 nipples on each side that will allow you to have correct straight

positioning. But you will be unable to use screws to secure it back to the
mounting plate. But this is where good ole JB weld and tie straps come in.
Mix some JB together and spread it over the mounting tabs
where the screws holes are. The projector has a little weight to it.
And I have used it to my advantage. In its drying position, the projector has
to be sitting onto the mounting plate. I found and old cup and sit the projector
onto the cup. The mounting plate overhung each side of the cup to suspend it.
I let it dry for about 7 hours. You can only let dry for 5 hours or less
because heat will make the JB dry quicker.  Wrap a tie wrap around the belly
of the projector, right next to the mountin plate. But leave it loose for now.
use 4 more tie wraps at each corner. From the back of the pro. go under the plate,
and under the tie wrap wrapped around the pro. Now you may tighten up the first
tie wrap, then trim. After that tighten up the other 4 wraps and trim. This along
with JB will for sure secure this setup from moving.
222_0515-600.jpg

Now you must place the projector back on to the aiming screws. Fine tuning will
be done later.
I do have another stock projector from my last headlight. I will retrofit that
into the reflector bowl of the lowbeam to run dual projectors. I will paint all
chrome housing with high temp matte black paint for a stealthy look. After all
that pretty chrome will no longer be used.
222_0521-600.jpg

222_0520-600.jpg

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Great article and understanding of how HID lights work in a projector; it makes sense to me.
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Dear Friends

I'm sorry to learn that opting for a HID light isn't a plug-and-play proposition.

Someone should develop a legal plug-and-play solution.

What does HID stand for? I'm guessing high-intensity something or other.

ALLshow.NOgo, thanks for the detailed write-up!

--Jaddie
 
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