I need help with my 1/4 mile technique...

OB_Kamikaze

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Any Busa drag racers out there?
What type of launch technique do you use,I just took my Busa to the drag strip,I don't know what the Busa likes so far as launch RPM,I only got two passes,this was the best:
60 ft. 1.924
1/8 mi. 7.236@104.87 mph
1/4 mi. 10.947@131.60 mph

I would like to know what are some good shift points(RPM),Its seems that the trap speed is low also,I'm 6 ft. 246 lbs.but I still should be seeing 135-136 mph,BTW my bike has 750 mi. on the clock.
 
Kami, a rider's weight will definitely play a factor in quarter mile times. There have been tests done and research made on this subject. One of the mags did a test years ago where they strapped weight to the bike in increments and found out what effect that caused. It is pretty safe to say that for every 25 pounds added, for a bike in that power range, that you can see a tenth of a second hit. So, out of the get you give up close to 4 tenths of a second to a 150 pound rider.

I have never launched a Hayabusa, but the key to the game when it comes to racing bikes is to find that thin line between power, traction, wheelies and bogs. This is done through precise throttle manipulation and clutch use. Now, from what I hear from friends who ride these bikes is that the Hayabusa likes lower rpm launches.... or more a streetlight style launch. This I couldn't tell you without riding one personally, but I am sure tons of guys on here could say otherwise.

There are really two numbers that dragracers need to be concerned with on their timeslips. If these two are done right, then the rest will fall naturally fall into place. The 60 foot time is the most important time on your slip, but even that will do you little good without a solid 330' time as well. I had my ZX-9 set-up before where it would 60 footer like a mother but bog a bit and lose some of the momemtum gained after the 60 foot mark. The key is to get to the 60' clocks quickly and to carry that momentum on down the track. It is often said that whatever you can gain to 60 feet in time, you can double by the finish line.... it seems to be pretty true from what I have seen.

I wouldn't be so concerned with the mph yet, that should increase as your times do and as the bike breaks in. Also, you didn't say, but things like altitude, hot weather, headwinds, etc. all play factors in a bikes mph. I hope this helps....


Kevin - fastzx9@dragbike.com
 
Kamikaze - guess you didn't read the Busa owner's manual?(page 37-38) Seems the first half of the paragraph on page 38 would cause some concern.
 
Todd:My bike has 750 miles on it,thats close enough for me,BTW I never shift over 11K anyway.

GSXRTurbo1:Me and my friend plan to take the bikes to Milan Dragway this Wednesday night,gates open at 4:30 pm for test & tune,admission is 20 bucks,you'll have to wear some leather pants to race any bike that runs faster than 119 mph,I'll drop you a email.

Frank & ZX9:I'll try some of these techniques Wed. night.

[This message has been edited by Kamikaze (edited 17 September 1999).]
 
Kami,

I was in Michigan last month...actually Rochester Hills. My brother has a new ZX-9 and I was going to take it to Milan Raceway on one of the Wednesday night deals, but I had to come home early due to an emergency. It would have been nice to play with you guys! Good luck!

Kevin
 
Kamikaze, what track did you go to? If I recall, you live in Michigan and picked your bike up at Rosenau Power Sports. I also live in Michigan (Southgate). I'd like to go with you to the dragstrip next time you go (I have an 86 Turbo GSXR1100) Let me know GSXRTurbo1@aol.com
 
Yes Kevin I do cringe a bit when I see a fine virgin Busa motor thrashed at the track. Just like a fine lady a Busa should be treated well and respected until they are "ready". I thought this info was pretty well known - maybe not? Here's a few tidbits from the manual (pgs 37-38):

Begin Suzuki manual info

Maximum Engine Speed Recommendations:

Initial 800km (500 miles) -BELOW 5500 r/min
Up to 1600km (1000 miles) -BELOW 8000 r/min
Over 1600km (1000 miles) -BELOW 11000 r/min

Although it is essential to place some stress on the engine components during break-in, you must be careful NOT to load the engine too much. The initial service (break-in maintenance) is the MOST important service your motorcycle will receive. During [proper] break-in operation, all of the engine components will have mated together and seated.

End Suzuki manual info

It has been reported that the Busa takes a bit longer than most bikes to break-in properly making these guidelines even more important to follow.

[This message has been edited by Todd (edited 17 September 1999).]
 
fast zx-9: good reply!
to add a little to your reply, you might try to launch your busa around 4,000 to 4,500 rpm. after each pass you make be a little more aggressive on the clutch (letting it out). keep doing this until the bike starts to spin the tire or wheelies. good riders can carry the front wheel through 1st gear without letting it come over by using the clutch while it's in the air.
the softer or slower you let out the clutch from the line the less chance you'll have of it coming up or breaking the tire loose. this will result in slower 60ft times.
unless you have a clutch basket mod you'll have to come off the line with what i said earlier. if you launch it any higher than that it will come striaght up on you right off the line. wheelies are the hardest to control. when you can work that one out you'll be a better racer. it takes more than that to be a good racer but thats the first step....good luck. let me know if you what any further advice....frank
 
if your bike is more or less stock it's going to depend on your wieght and what sprokets your running with. let me know what your setup is....frank
 
I'm 245 lbs. and the bike is stock and still has stock gearing.

[This message has been edited by Kamikaze (edited 19 September 1999).]
 
in your situation you'll need to take it
to redline. your going to hurt your purpose
if you shift that low. shifting that low will not keep where you need to be at all.

your bike will probably build it's best power around 9,750 rpm. the reason you need to take yours up to redline is that when you shift it falls back to a point where it's
going to be in a power band. keep that baby
where where it drops into the power band and not below!

make sure you stay out of the revlimiter!
thats going to do nothing but hurt your times.
thats what makes a shiftlight a nice piece to add on....and then a airshifter, then a autosifter and so on....

get those other items we spoke of earlier first. then we need to talk about susp setup
before you go to the track!....frank
 
k k, i highly reccomend you change your
gearing a.s.a.p.
i think with your wieght, you may need to
setup your bike to run through the traps
at the top of 5th gear.

1 down in the front and 2up in the rear
might be just the ticket for you.

this is going to be something you'll probably
end up with.
try to use 1 or the other first. only because
you need to get use to launching your first.

if the 1 down doesn't let you get to redline
in 4th then go back to your stock gear in the
front and put on the 2 up in the rear.

the bike will run it's best times with you
on it when you reach your final setup of
making it to the top of 5th.

you need to understand that when you set your
bike up to last setup your going to have
alot more trouble keeping the front tire on
the ground and the rear tire will want to spin alot easier. thats why i'm trying to
get to first set it up at the top of 4th.

after you do your gear change you'll need to look into changing your clutch basket.

the busa is probably the hardest bike out there to try to learn how to launch.
not even the best riders out there can launch this bike the way they need to with the way the stock basket is.
you'll need to have the basket mod.

theres alot to cover on this subject but you need to look into making these changes before we can go any further.

just let me know when your ready...frank
 
My two cents worth on drag racing the Busa. In leave the line at about 5500. Shift at 10,000. I can average a 1.62 60 foot time(1.58 personal best)My best ET in the quarter is 9.75@145mph. I can average 9.89 to 9.91. Only mods are lowered and one tooth off the front sprocket. I hope to get better at this drag racing thing.
GSXDAN
 
GSXTURBO1
I weigh 180lbs, although I am working on that. 180 is a little heavy for a guy 5 feet 8 inches tall.
GSXDAN
 
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