Yeah yeah I talked a lot of crap about the 12r in the past. Well now I'm forced to take most of that stuff back. A good friend of mine bought a red 12r and I was riding with him last night on my Busa (trading my Busa in next week for RC51). We also switched bikes for a little while. First of all both bikes are completely stock but the 12R isn't fully broken in. My first impressions after hopping off my Busa and on the 12r are that the Busa's power actually kicks in earlier than the 12r and it has quite a bit more torque. However once the revs get up on the 12 it pulls hard as hell and the front tire becomes air borne. The 12r actually feels quite a bit lighter than the Busa and it's steering is quicker. When going through a few curves on the 12r it felt much easier to lean than the Busa. The 12r is much more fun to ride on a curvy road than the Busa..but as long as the rider on the Busa is skilled the 12r wont leave it behind on any road. Yes the 12r is more agile but I just don't think it's agile enough to leave a Busa for dead in the twisties. When we pulled into a gas station and my friend hopped off my Busa the first thing he said was DAMN, THAT BIKE PULLS STRONG EVERYWHERE! Yet he still thinks his 12R is just a tad faster. I'm not so sure about that..He got back on his 12r and I hopped back on my Busa and we hit the expressway to let them rip. What I found is that the 12r is not faster yet it's not much slower either. We didn't get a chance to top the bikes out there where too many cars around and not enough road. Basically whoever got hard on the gas first was the one who stayed in front. If I hit the gas before him he could not catch me. And when he got on the gas first I couldn't catch him either but I think at top speed the Busa might* reel the 12r in. A lot of it comes down to the rider on the street. Whoever is the craziest will win. We're going out for another ride tonight to see if we can't top them out and just do some roll ons. The 12r has definetly earned my respect but I still do not want one. The Busa is still king in my book. The 12r definetly has the Busa covered as far as wheelies go..the Busa can pull some nice wheelies but the 12r will do them at almost any time and any where. Reminds me of my R1!