Is this a good bike to buy

OB_Hapo

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...best bike I have ever had...came off a VFR to a TL1000R and I bought the Busa after the first test ride(I'm privalaged)and don't even miss the TL, although I would have kept it if I wuz loaded...this may be your last chance to sample an Ultra Sport anyway...you will have little trouble unloading it if it turns out not to be the bike for you...that's how I got mine...the extream power is just one aspect of this amazing bike...it is nearly as seamless as a Honda and just feels like it belongs on the road in a way that is hard to desrcibe...think mass and stability and yet sporty to the point of rediculas in such a large bike...you will be seeking out twisty and even bumpy roads with abandon, and I have absoulutly steamrollerd several smaller sporty bikes (my old TL for one) on Knarly little back roads that looked better suited to my DR650...the bike is as unflappable as any thing on two wheels out there and this translates into rider confidence...numbers alone don't tell it all...

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Jon, the Busa is not a perfect bike, and certainly not the right bike for everyone.You say you have a quick Honda, so I'm assuming you can handle a lot of power without getting yourself into immediate trouble.
I wouldn't worry about the tranny. It's stiff at first, and if you rush it you might miss an occasional shift. Synthetic oil(or a blend)after breakin cures most of that, and miles cure the rest.
There are two problems that could cause problems in a significant number of bikes. One is a grabby clutch, which was bad on the '99s, and may be OK on the Y2K bikes. That can be solved quickly and inexpensively with the Brock Davidson clutch mod if it becomes a problem.
The second problem may or may not exist on the Y2K bikes: the Cutout. There is a ton of info on that problem, so I won't repeat it.
Neither of those problems would cause me to hesitate an instant about buying another Busa. Forget the hype and BS. Find a way to beg, borrow or steal a ride on a Busa, even if you have to hop a plane. After your ride, try to talk yourself into buying anything else. Fat chance! On most bikes, a ride is just a ride. On the Busa, it's an experience.Everyone knows about the power, but it's also very forgiving. Very stable.It's not a bike for the inexperienced or someone without a lot of self control, though.
Hapo is right. One ride did it for both of us. Nothing else is even close.
 
Hi everyone,
I signed on this today after being teased by a 2000 "busa" at the bike show, the blue and silver one. I have a few questions.
Are there any problems with the tranny's, speficially popping out of gear?,.. does anyone know if the engagement dogs are undercut?. The flow rate of the injectors?
Any problems of any nature? I have a honda now that goes pretty good, but maybe a new bike is in order.
any comments would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
Jon
 
BUY IT!!!
Tranny - Some (most?) owners report missing shifts occaisionally. This seems to happen under part throttle unstressed upshifts and seems to go away over time. The unit is strong and durable. I don't know about undercutting, but I would say it is likely.

The Hayabusa is MAGIC right off the showroom floor, and considering the small number of them (around 1600 sold in US for '99) the aftermarket is brimming with stuff to make it suit your any need. Look around randomly at the posts here, they will back me up plus.
 
Sweetest bike I have ever owned. No problems shifting but I dialed in the pedals, levers, TPS and throttle syncs fairly carefully.

Perhaps some of the hi mileage guys should reply to this.

I see you only have 1 post so Welcome to the forum. Try a search on keywords relating to issues you're concerned about. There isn't much about Busa's that hasn't been heavily debated by some pretty sharp people.

Not enough debate about the ZX12 vs Busa though.

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thanks for the input. still need to know the flow rates for the injectors if anyone has them. also is the stock header mild steel or stainless? I saw a post,. somewhere from a guy who had a 900 rr, does anybody know this guy,.. id like to chat with him if possable. The honda i have will take care of itself, in most street fights,.. even some on the dyno.
 
I have owned a 90 Gixxer 1100 and a 90 ZX7 and neither was even close to being as polished and competent as this bike. It will not only blow you away with its power but will equally impress with its poise and comfort. Buy one and don't look back. You won't regret it.
 
It's Waltman's fault I own one of these. I went up to Hollywood one Saturday to meet the LABusas, and when I met him Walt dangled his key in front of me and said, "Wanna take it for a cruise?" That was all it took. I had to have one.
 
"Flow rate of the injectors" is a major aspect of your buying decision? They flow enough for the proper air/fuel ratio.


Put a pipe on it and forget about the stock header.
 
Well if concerned with Flow Rate I would say buy the ZX12 as the big Kaw is really flowing some wind these days (wings or not), if you want a bike with a stainless steel oem exhaust that will blow away anything else on the road then you are in the right place take what ever it is you own now and sell it, burn it, or give it away as you will not want to ride anything else after the a single ride on the BUSA.

I hate these topics, if you want to hear Busa bashing try the ZX12 sites. lots of FLOW over there.

FLOW RATES give me a break, lets talk tire pressure instead............da..........


What Honda do you own, Shadows go pretty good I hear and can flow with the best of them.

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If you've ...
A: Seen a Busa on the road, or
B: Seen one at a dealer, or
C: Spent 30 minutes scrolling through this site.

And you still have to ask if you ought to buy one, the answer is Nah! Stick with your Honda.

The thing about the Busa is that it reached out and made each one of us who owns one buy it. If a Busa didn't choose you to own it, don't do it.
 
I hadn't really thought about it like that, but that's right, the Busa owns me, not the other way around...my soul at least!! :)
 
Jon M

Just talk to OMEGA!
He was on the right track (BUSA) once and then the devil (HONDA) got to him and he was lost in Palm Beach Florida for 40 days and 40 nights until he saw the LIGHT and now he's back on track riding his BUSA. Now the sun shines brightly in Palm Beach, AMEN ! :)
 
Wow,.. here i ask a couple of questions,.. and get slaughtered. Unfortunatly, i dont know anyone with a busa. It sounds like you guys are very happy with your purchasing descision. the price is right,.. 9558 us out the door. Hey,.. who knows the tire presure?
 
I'm a long way from being the most experienced rider on the boards here,but I'm 46 and I got my first bike at 13. I have had 7 or 8 over the years from Honda,to Kawasaki to a chopped and raked Harley that could barely turn over 5 miles an hour. I dragged them a little, did things on city streets that argue for the existence of a God who must have wanted me alive for some reason, and I am the first to admit I'm not very good at the road racing that some of the canyon runners and other expert riders on this board are into. My most recent bike was a 750 Katana. BUT, WHEN I RODE THE HAYABUSA it was like a REVELATION. The bike makers had finally made the one I had been dreaming of.I have ridden fast street bikes all my life but nothing with all of this torque and low end grunt in every gear! I't's continously shoving from the back so hard, seamlessly with no end it feels like the thrust of the space shuttle. BUT, it is so incredibly stable and sure on the road, that although some might say that could lead an inexperienced driver to perhaps get into trouble, it does not lull you into a FALSE sense of security because it really IS very balanced, and secure, and forgiving, even with such enormous power.Its so stable at speed that it rides like it is much heavier than it really is, and since we have a lot of high winds around the plains I get pushed around a lot usually when coming around a semi and such. The Busa actually dips INTO the side wind much of the time and I have far less trouble staying in the lane than other bike approaching double it's weight! So, much like the first time you drve a Porsche 911, you genuinely can run through the gears, look down, and be astounded that you're runnung at 140 OR 150. It feels like 100-110, with no great drama,or loss of control or braking, oe even the feeling that you are stretching it's performance at all.
I was sold immediately.- Three weeks later I paid the full sticker without arguing when the guy first on their list couldn't get the money, and drove it home. All my friends are tired of me talking about it all the time, my employees think it's hilarious that a guy my age has the baddest bike in the parking lot, and the guards at the guardhouse tell me people stop and look at it continously. Even though there are every kind of Harley, Bimmer,sport bike, and even Triumphs parked there as well. And I couldn't care less; I'ts the best bike in the world, not just the fastest, in my opinion; and it is a thrill every time you get on it. Beg, Borrow, or steal one to ride it, and you'll be next!!!

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That ain't really fair, Hack. I finally got mine three weeks ago, and I've been knocking around this board since last summer. I finally got chastised by Dirty Pete last week for endless dithering, I guess it was about time!

But Jon, yeah...flow rate of the injectors??? WTF do you care about that for? I have no idea what it is. I don't know the CFM of the carbs on my GS1100E, and it's been a wonderful bike for me for 17 years. Tire pressure?? It does kind of set off the squid alarm.

[This message has been edited by Mr Bear (edited 24 February 2000).]
 
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