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He complied enough to be cuffed and seated.
It just doesn't stop
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That’s Tom’s point. Proper police procedure must be followed and enforced or we could all be in trouble.
Apparently not
Kneeling on his neck was proper police procedure. All Mn cops were trained in it. The fentanyl is what killed him not the kneeling. He couldn’t breathe because he was high AF.
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Again. He was already cuffed and seated. They managed to do that without the Fentanyl killing him.
Every cop is trained to recognize the notion that drugs could be a part of the condition they deal with. If he was high they should be aware that they could kill him easier because of drugs.
Just like dealing with a drunk. You don't beat them worse because they are drunk.
Flip side is drugs sometimes make people more violent requiring more restraint and force to control them. No?
All he had to do was get in the car like a good boy and go to jail. He struggled. They obliged. He’s dead and I have no pity for him at all.
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Again he was already cuffed and seated. How much more clear do you need that stated?
A few years ago I'd agree but in todays clime the two have become synonymous and interchangeable...
Activism breeds extremism and vice-versa....some protests start passively and then morph into violence and this happens really quickly.
The term "woke" started off in one direction and has morphed into another....
Groups of marginalized people are now demanding their voices are heard above anyone else's voice....if anyone disagrees with their agenda or ideology, that person is automatically labelled....we live in a society of diversity.......if we pandered to each and every nuance of culture and ideology we would lose any shred of identity we have.
If someone specifically identifies as one of these marginalized groups we should respect that but everyone shouldn't have to adapt to the ideology of that group...hence my opposition to the use of pronouns for people who don't identify as this group...
A reckoning is coming and it won't be pretty....when the pendulum swings back it will be dramatic and most likely not for the faint of heart...
Geebus Bill, “a reckoning is coming and it won’t be pretty”? Won’t be pretty? Against wokeism?
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Sorry but not even close. Activism is electing officials and getting involved with elections and is the cornerstone of a democracy. Sitting at home whining about things and doing nothing is the opposite. How you equate that with extremism I can’t get my head around.
Apparently we will have to agree to disagree. You and I agree on Trump but it seems not much else.
Was he a criminal?
Was he high on drugs?
Did he commit another crime in trying to pass a phony bill?
HIS actions caused him to find himself face down cuffed.
Did you find yourself in that position today?
Why not?
Seems pretty clear to me.
Don’t be a dirtbag and chances are pretty good you won’t run into any cops.
If we see the trend happening these days, people are getting tired, things such as "Freedom Convoys" and these sorts of protests are going to get louder and larger as time goes on.
There is a lot of anger out there....and it's simmering awaiting a spark to set it off....if Trump gets into office again, that will be a spark.
I suppose not....
I've seen these supposed peaceful activists garner extremist views when their agenda is not accepted.
It's happened in many places by many activist groups...Green Peace is an example of how the switch from activism to extremism can happen.
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Was he protected by the U.S. Constitution? This is a simple answer.
Perhaps next week you will be face down with a knee on your neck, because you look like you might be a dirtbag terrorist from somewhere where brown skinned people that are terrorist live. Or maybe you look Palestinian. That's a popular source of tension in America right now.
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So by that philosophy everyone should just wait and hope for the best? Citing isolated examples of passion and activism turning violent is a total cop out. I have nothing else to add here.
…”Kneeling on his neck was proper police procedure.”
For eight minutes? Until he was dead or could Chauvin have stopped sooner?
Proper procedure? Where, Hanoi, 1969? Dachau, 1933? Eight minutes remember?
…” All he had to do was get in the car like a good boy and go to jail. He struggled. They obliged”
He was already in the car remember?
Struggled? When? I’ve never seen a second of footage of Floyd struggling, except to breathe.
…“like a good boy”?
What he was, was black and available. Cops answering a call for a phony $20 bill, not exactly the crime of the century, and likely an offense for which he would’ve been released on his own recognizance had he actually made it to jail alive…an already cuffed suspect taken out of a police car and placed face down on the street with what, 3-4 cops pushing him into the pavement while Chauvin smiled or sneered for the camera? For eight minutes until he died? All good for you right?
Once anyone is in police custody whether they look like you or resemble Floyd, their well being, actually their very life, is then the responsibility of the police. Any officer who aids or assists or by every definition, doesn’t try to stop such behavior of a fellow officer, even if that officer is of a higher rank, is just as guilty.
For eight minutes? Until he was dead or could Chauvin have stopped sooner?
Proper procedure? Where, Hanoi, 1969? Dachau, 1933? Eight minutes remember?
…” All he had to do was get in the car like a good boy and go to jail. He struggled. They obliged”
He was already in the car remember?
Struggled? When? I’ve never seen a second of footage of Floyd struggling, except to breathe.
…“like a good boy”?
What he was, was black and available. Cops answering a call for a phony $20 bill, not exactly the crime of the century, and likely an offense for which he would’ve been released on his own recognizance had he actually made it to jail alive…an already cuffed suspect taken out of a police car and placed face down on the street with what, 3-4 cops pushing him into the pavement while Chauvin smiled or sneered for the camera? For eight minutes until he died? All good for you right?
Once anyone is in police custody whether they look like you or resemble Floyd, their well being, actually their very life, is then the responsibility of the police. Any officer who aids or assists or by every definition, doesn’t try to stop such behavior of a fellow officer, even if that officer is of a higher rank, is just as guilty.
Unfortunate that you feel that way but acceptable.
There are many examples of this occurring and not all in North America....
I've watched this very thing unfold before my own eyes....I'm not just talking out of my arse. In my former job covert ops was a normal thing and we observed quite a bit over the years.....so much that I may have become jaded, the jury is out on that one.
I think you later listened to him some more and found some good logic in his thoughts? Me too. I don’t agree with everything but he makes a lot of sense.
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Derek Chauvin stabbed in Arizona prison where he is serving 22 years
Derek Chauvin, who was sentenced to 22 years in prison for the May 2020 murder of George Floyd, was stabbed by another inmate at the Tucson, Arizona prison on Friday.
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