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I‘m searching for recommendations for an assessment or a maintenance beyond the standard maintenance plan. I have the 2008 model and do most of the maintenance stuff on my own. This time I thought I go to a Suzuki Partner and let them do it. But I want to have a kind of list to talk about what’s necessary beyond the normal. May be you have some good ideas what to do additionally, what shall be checked, which part needs some more attention after 12 years...

many thanks in advanced
 
FalconX said:
I‘m searching for recommendations for an assessment or a maintenance beyond the standard maintenance plan. I have the 2008 model and do most of the maintenance stuff on my own. This time I thought I go to a Suzuki Partner and let them do it. But I want to have a kind of list to talk about what’s necessary beyond the normal. May be you have some good ideas what to do additionally, what shall be checked, which part needs some more attention after 12 years...

many thanks in advanced
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How many miles are on the Busa?

Around every 15-20k miles you need to be checking the chain and sprockets. (Honestly changing both at least every 20k)

Also, if its been over 15k miles since your last valve adjustment, you might also want to consider getting that done.

That's all I can really speak on.
 
In short, a good dealer would be able to tell you exactly what you need and do it for you. The dilemma is good Suzuki dealers are scarce if even existent at all.

I would not let any of them close to my bike.

Your best bet is finding some of the sponsors here on the forum, or a member and do some good referencing before you pull the trigger.
 
Kiwi Rider said:
You need to talk to @Berlin Germany ,
Frank has a very good comprehensive ‘above and beyond’ maintenance schedule available... he is happy to provide it also!
No doubt he’ll be along shortly to talk to you about this.
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Fork oil, rear shock service, rear suspension linkage system service, steering head bearings, wheel bearings, clutch and brakes hydraulic fluids changed etc.
As I said in my previous post, Frank the German will provide all info necessary!
 

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Berlin Germany said:
thanks @Kiwi Rider for "inviting" me :D

so here for @FalconX the link to my homepage around the busa
with dozen of hints beyond the manuals

plus
my summarized gen1&2 maintenance-schedule in a pdf
and in any case get yourself at first a lifting platform/bench, because crawling around on the floor like a seal is a real challenge after only 5 minutes.
:fire: :redface: :eek:
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Maybe you could explain the following statement in your pdf,

”when replacing the cooling water, turn out and clean the measuring surface move it into the hose on the right motor ́s side (ensures a very long life of head gasket)”.

Turn out and clean measuring surface? And “move” what into the hose? And what does a head gasket have to do with a coolant exchange?
 
@WuzzaCBXRider

that´s simple ;)

at ALL gen1 (and gen2 better too and at ALL water cooled motors too)
always have a look / an eye on the measuring surface of the feeler if it is shining clean / if not (as usual :redface:) clean with 1000-2000 sandpaper
thatfor you have to put it out ;) - best while replacing the coolant.

ok at the gen2 it is a very tricky job because its feeler is only hard to get reached / turned out & in
because it´s hided LH under the throttles and behind lots of wires.

generally said:
- if the surface/measuring area isn´t clean the feeler measures the wrong temperature, the fan starts later and later and the coolant temp rises to .....
- by that also the pressure in the water based system rises to deathyfying bars
- what in the end may destroy / blow through the head gasket
- what then can! be seen by watermarks inside the cylinder.

that all the movement of the feeler from radiator to the RH pipe/hose and
its cleaning (over time a kind of dirt layer forms on the measuring surface, which then becomes a kind of insulation and falsifies the measured values) prevents a very lot.

and

if the gasket hasn´t been blow yet the movement to "the right" can bring (and keep) the pin in your temp.-gauge in the odo back to middle and to stay there,
even if you have 39°C outside AND stop ´n go in a traffic jam
what i experienced some years ago exactly that way !
"the temp.-pointer stayed in the middle as if been stopped by a nail."
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
@Berlin Germany

I‘m trying, believe me but “measuring surface of the feeler?” Are you referring to the thermostat and the ‘seat’ it sits in? If I were to replace it I would also replace the gasket. Is that what you mean?
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:laugh: I think Berlin's autotranslate was on high speed for that one. The "feeler" must mean, "sensor". Engine coolant temp sensor and thermostat.

Berlin Germany said:
generally said:
- if the surface/measuring area isn´t clean the feeler measures the wrong temperature, the fan starts later and later and the coolant temp rises to .....
- by that also the pressure in the water based system rises to deathyfying bars
- what in the end may destroy / blow through the head gasket
- what then can! be seen by watermarks inside the cylinder.
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That's a good one Berlin, clean off the deposits on the water sensor probe with some super fine grit sandpaper. The service manual recomends testing it and replacing if it fails the ohm/hot liquid test. I guess I would test first and clean with sandpaper if it fails the test. If it still fails, replace it. If it were 12 years old and failed the test, I'd probably replace it whether the sandpaper cleaning worked or not. Chances are, it would be another 12 years before I ever removed it again.

Here's another one: test and/or replace the radiator cap. another: clean and straighten the fins on the radiator and oil cooler..............................it's all in the service manual.

@FalconX I couldn't think of a single thing that is NOT covered in the service manual that I would do as a maintenance procedure but I'm sure there are a million valuable tips people might offer like putting dialectric grease on the battery terminals, loosening and tightening header bolts so they don't freeze, sandpapering the water temp probes, etc. I would get a service manual and look at the scheduled maintenance chart. Do all of those. Then it's up to you to decide what extra things are most likely to be wearing out or in need of adjustment based on the conditions you operate the bike in. If you run the bike in a harsh environment or weather, you probably have a lot of things that wear out quicker. There's hundreds of pages in the SM, just comb down the table of contents for each section.

My ZX-14 is 12 years old and has 50k miles on it. I've done most of the scheduled maintenance. I have not replaced everything that is recommended although like you, it's getting to the point where I know I should. The bike runs like new. My 08 busa has 16k miles on it and I've done very little maintenance other than replace tires, oil, coolant, brake fluid cush drive rubbers and any other stuff that comes up in the process of doing a mod or winterizing. Currently I'm changing sprockets and chain and the brake pads might finally need to be changed out. That bike runs great too. I have a friend that owns 6 sportbikes and never did anything but change tires, oil and batteries. The oldest bike is a 2006 ZX-14.
 
Mythos said:
:laugh: I think Berlin's autotranslate was on high speed for that one. The "feeler" must mean, "sensor". Engine coolant temp sensor and thermostat.
(...)
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@WuzzaCBXRider too ;)

if i remember correctly, the "feeler" at the gen1 busa´s radiator, left at the top, is the switch for the fan(s) who measures the temp of the coolant and switches on/off the fan(s).

its measuring surface, water/coolant touched, i clean every 2nd year, while reniewing the coolant, with super fine grit sand paper .

your idea, @Mythos , of an aging sensor / switch sounds good - so i guess i will spend some 43 € and install, while next coolant change, a new switch. ;)

and perhaps i´ll use then the suzuki burgman´s switch who switches some 10°C earlier ==> around 95-98 °C (the standard one works usually at 105-108 °C)
if there is someone who´s interested, here the "burgman´s" art.-no. 17680-50f10
 
FalconX said:
I‘m searching for recommendations for an assessment or a maintenance beyond the standard maintenance plan. I have the 2008 model and do most of the maintenance stuff on my own. This time I thought I go to a Suzuki Partner and let them do it. But I want to have a kind of list to talk about what’s necessary beyond the normal. May be you have some good ideas what to do additionally, what shall be checked, which part needs some more attention after 12 years...

many thanks in advanced
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Change the fork oil and seals. Highly overdue.
 
I never have changed fork oil or seals in 12 years but it should be done although both front and rear seem to be working flawlessly and I have never touched the settings. The dust seals are cracked on my forks though. I'm sure the rubber inside is deteriorating too.
 
Wow - I‘m totally surprised. Didn’t really expect so much feedback this time of the year. This will need some time to go through it. Thank you all so much and have good start in 2021!
 
@FalconX
(and @ all others here too ;) )

i definitely don't want to pretend to be omniscient but once you have completely worked through my maintenance plan (resulting from over 12 years of experiences with the busa) you shouldn't have any further work on the busa for the next time and you should be almost 100% sure everything has been done for the best function of the busa to have.
but let me "warn" ;) you - my entire plan easily results in 50 hours of work plus the cost of materials.


and no matter how lazy you else ever wanna be - check the clutch stud bolts next days - whatever busa (or b-king) you have
:shocked: this can happen :shocked:at ALL busas !

to all :

happy new year
&
stay healthy

:hello: /
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Corey Mathery said:
How many miles are on the Busa?

Around every 15-20k miles you need to be checking the chain and sprockets. (Honestly changing both at least every 20k)

Also, if its been over 15k miles since your last valve adjustment, you might also want to consider getting that done.

That's all I can really speak on.
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Well - I have something around 32k miles so far. But I have a chain oiling system since start and the chain is still in perfect condition. I even did not have to tension the chain so far. But I put the valve adjustment on my list. Because I cann’t remember doing it in the past. Thank you!
 
FalconX said:
Well - I have something around 32k miles so far. But I have a chain oiling system since start and the chain is still in perfect condition. I even did not have to tension the chain so far. But I put the valve adjustment on my list. Because I cann’t remember doing it in the past. Thank you!
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You’re riding a bike that hasn’t had a chain adjusted in 32 thousand miles?
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
You’re riding a bike that hasn’t had a chain adjusted in 32 thousand miles?
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Yes - this is correct. Last year I went to a Suzuki dealer and asked him about his opinion regarding the chain. He said: It looks pretty new. He only would turn the chain tensioner one turn. That’s all. Ok - he didn‘t see the front sprocket. I put this on my list
 
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