NEED SOME HELP WITH CHARGE!!

[JestersBusa]

OK THIS IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF...I BOUGHT A NEW BATTERY AND CHANGED A RELAY I THOUGHT WAS MESSED UP...I EVEN CHANGED THE COOLIN LIQUID TO ENGINE ICE THINKIN THE BATTERY WAS GETTIN TOO HOT TO START THE BIKE UP....INSTALLED EVERYTHING, WENT TO THE LOCAL "BIKE NIGHT" AND WHEN IT WAS TIME TO LEAVE GUESS WHO HAD TO BE PUSH STARTED???..YUP....ME!!! CAN SOMEBODY PLEEEEASE HELP ME OUT CUZ IM TIRED OF DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM...THANKS GUYS..AND MIND ME USING CAPS BUT IM PISSED!!!!!

 

[Johnnycheese]

Stock motor?

 

[MC MUSTANG]

What relay did you change and what do you have hooked up direct to your battery? What electrical work have you done? When did you buy a new battery and how long did it last... did you change the old battery for the same reason? How long is a charge lasting? Do you have a trickle charger? Just trying to get some more info in order to help...

 

[JestersBusa]

(MC MUSTANG @ Jun. 05 2007,19:46) What relay did you change and what do you have hooked up direct to your battery?  What electrical work have you done?  When did you buy a new battery and how long did it last... did you change the old battery for the same reason?   How long is a charge lasting?  Do you have a trickle charger?  Just trying to get some more info in order to help...

i changed the fan relay cuz the fan wasnt coming on regardless of the temperature but i did hook up the fan so it comes on as soon as the ignition switch comes on, electrical wise i havent done anything but put a advanced tre gear shift indicator.....the new battery was a day old when it completely lost power...the battery was soooo dead that it died wile i was doing like 20 mph's and i tried popping the clutch but i guess it was soo dead it wouldnt start the bike....

 

[JestersBusa]

(Johnnycheese @ Jun. 05 2007,19:46) Stock motor?

i bought the bike used but im assuming the motor is stock....but the busa is my first bike so i prob wouldnt know the differnence

 

[DAB]

So your fan runs all the time when the ignition is on?

Do you do lots of short trips? Do you ride with the revs down low most of the time?

 

[JestersBusa]

(DAB @ Jun. 05 2007,20:57) So your fan runs all the time when the ignition is on?

Do you do lots of short trips? Do you ride with the revs down low most of the time?

yup the fan runs as soon as the ignition gets switched to on, and when i do ride i dont go cross country but i dont do short trips either....im starting to think that its something to do with the magneto.......

 

[GIXERHP]

Whats the charging system putting out for voltage??

 

[SpeedAdict]

(JestersBusa @ Jun. 06 2007,01:55)

(DAB @ Jun. 05 2007,20:57) So your fan runs all the time when the ignition is on?

Do you do lots of short trips? Do you ride with the revs down low most of the time?

yup the fan runs as soon as the ignition gets switched to on, and when i do ride i dont go cross country but i dont do short trips either....im starting to think that its something to do with the magneto.......

That could be your problem right there. If your fan is on right from square one and you are only doing short trips than your battery is draining and no charge time is getting to it. No real charge is going to happen till the rpms are up above 3000 RPM's. Warm up with the fan on can produce a lot of drain. Check your fan switch for function, hook your fan back up to the stock config and give her a go. Also has the bike ever been dropped? If the bike has been dropped on the left side your rectifier might be busted. Happens a lot in sport bikes. If the rectifier is busted then you will get poor battery life as well.

 

[dadofthree]

(SpeedAdict @ Jun. 06 2007,07:02)

(JestersBusa @ Jun. 06 2007,01:55)

(DAB @ Jun. 05 2007,20:57) So your fan runs all the time when the ignition is on?

Do you do lots of short trips? Do you ride with the revs down low most of the time?

yup the fan runs as soon as the ignition gets switched to on, and when i do ride i dont go cross country but i dont do short trips either....im starting to think that its something to do with the magneto.......

That could be your problem right there. If your fan is on right from square one and you are only doing short trips than your battery is draining and no charge time is getting to it. No real charge is going to happen till the rpms are up above 3000 RPM's. Warm up with the fan on can produce a lot of drain. Check your fan switch for function, hook your fan back up to the stock config and give her a go. Also has the bike ever been dropped? If the bike has been dropped on the left side your rectifier might be busted. Happens a lot in sport bikes. If the rectifier is busted then you will get poor battery life as well.

I believe the manual speaks of charging unregulated until 2K RPMs, so there should always be a charge if the bike is running. The manual goes into great detail on checking the battery, generator, regulator, and electrical system for drains.
Good Luck.

 

[JestersBusa]

(GIXERHP @ Jun. 06 2007,02:35) Whats the charging system putting out for voltage??

hmmm good question...i guess to save you guys from troubleshooting me i guess i can go out and purchase a manual and read up on it so i stop bothering people here

 

[burnschevy]

HMMM.

 

[Professor]

(JestersBusa @ Jun. 06 2007,06:46)

(GIXERHP @ Jun. 06 2007,02:35) Whats the charging system putting out for voltage??

hmmm good question...i guess to save you guys from troubleshooting me i guess i can go out and purchase a manual and read up on it so i stop bothering people here  

No need to run out and buy one. Download this version to get you started.

If your fan is coming on as soon as you turn on the key (cold motor), you have a problem there.

However. I'd start by diconnecting the fan and verifing charging/running voltage per the manual.

If that is good, I'd start trouble shoot the fan issue. It will pull a bit of current, but I don't think that is the total problem.

 

[JestersBusa]

ok thanks guys...again...lol