Need throttle bodies for the busa.

Frank Adams

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EXCLR8, Heres one for ya!

When your ready, I know where you can get fuel injectors that supply 20% more fuel then the stock ones!

That should bring out so smiles!!

Frank
 
OK Frank come across with the info buddy!

You can't hold out on us with this one. :)

The Busa uses Bosch type injector so just what is it you have found?
 
I am looking for some throttle bodies for the busa. Again I want to do some playing around with them. I found an ECU. Thanks

EXCLR8
 
Frank

I think all of us who mess with injection know where we can have our injectors flowed and matched. After that is done what about the fuel pump??? I thought you were going to tell us of an NEW part or somthing. You said "I know where" and now you say "I am told". I don't mean to flame you or anything but I am getting tired of all the second hand information that is being passed latley as if someone is an expert or at least has first hand information. When I need more flow I can get my injectors done or just put on a new fuel pump and regulator. That is not new news.
I am just looking for an extra set of throttle bodies to play around with, that is all!

EXCLR8

[This message has been edited by EXCLR8 (edited 23 January 2000).]
 
There is a Very well known person in the Dragracing field that is reworking stock injectors to flow 20% more fuel.(it's not My engine builder either!)

I'm told that it's $80 dollars an injector with exchange.

I hear theres a slight change in programing, but other than that it's a simple & basic mod.

I Myself am not ready for this in My application. But, I did get a knot in My throat when I heard the 20% part.

This is all I know other than the persons name, but because I haven't spoke with him directly I'm not sure he's ready for it to be public.

I'll say this one more time....There are alot of goodies coming for the Busa so our options will be far and wide.

Frank
 
EXCLR8, Wow!...are you really that upset over something this simple? you said you were looking for stock thottle bodies & ecu to play around with...why would I then think you needed these for an extra motor.

I want to ask you...do you read all or only part of My replies to you?

I told you everything I knew about the situation except the persons name. I don't have his ph# or I would surely call myself just to make sure that it's not a bunch of BS. I explained to you that I hadn't spoken with him so I didn't know if he was ready for the info to be public yet or not. And it still might be all crap but heres the name...
Russ collins, do you know him?

EX, I very much plan to use these injectors in the future...I'm just not ready for them now. If I was I would definitely have more info to share with everyone.

Ex, stop flaming Me hoss....you've bout got Me well done as it is...

Again, no hard feelings :)

Frank

[This message has been edited by frank adams (edited 24 January 2000).]
 
Frank,

Stop flaming you, you are about done. Ha Ha good one. nuf said! Yes, no hard feelings.

I think you will find that using these modified injectors is not all that easy. When you do start to use them, let me know what walls you run into. I am sure there are some problems I have not thought of.

Later
EXCLR8

[This message has been edited by EXCLR8 (edited 24 January 2000).]
 
<<I thought you were going to tell us of an NEW part or somthing. You said "I know where" and now you say "I am told". I don't mean to flame you or anything but I am getting tired of all the second hand information that is being passed latley as if someone is an expert or at least has first hand information.>>

EX,
I'm no expert by any means! plus, how do you know when you are an expert? modified Busa injectors are a new part. how many people do you know of them using these on Busa's?

EX, it's all second hand, it has to start somewhere. don't you agree? there are only a few experts that have ever spoken on this site about thier product.

It looked to Me like you might have been on to something so I mearly told you about something I thought might contribute to what you were doing. I guess I was wrong...My bagg!

There is alot of info that floats around the different web sites and what might be bad info to Me might be good info to someone else. I personally don't like to ripp down on somebody because I think thier info stinks. I understand that one person may have something good to contribute later on!

Ex, I thought I was giving something useful to your prodject....and I was wrong. I'll re-think things the next time before I share anything with you.

No hard feelings...

Frank suzukinos@aol.com
 
we learn most things second hand.i in many cases prefer this.then i do not have to suffer the way the guy that figured it out did! as far as duty of injecters are concerned call kinsler or rc they can get or help with any of yourquestions or needs or go like i do (close to the core)to the M.I.T.web page read then talk to the the specialists.and come to your own conclusions.i do know a combustiom physicist though and thats the area of his expertise.connections are cool! about the throttle bodies i thought the 750 scrads 98 99 had same size then they made them smaller and assisted in2000.i have seen these in online classifieds for as low as 200bucks but now that every one knows yhis i wont be able to get any for my projects .even if spacing differs it wont be to hard to change.
 
Frank,

I was not flaming you because you offered new information, I was flaming you because you never provided it. You said you have info with out providing any. I and others then said ok tell us. Then you did not provide any real info. You did not give us a phone #, email, web page or even a name. If you want people to listen to you then get your ducks in a row before you post.

Do you think that the injectors on the busa were developed just for this application? I bet you know better than that. I was saying that modifying the flow characteristics of any electronic fuel injector is not a new trick. When you modify the flow of the stock injectors you run into many other problems that are beyond the scope of this thread.

As far as being an expert, if you have enough knowledge to successfully build your own (widget) then you MAY qualify as an expert for that (widget). The amount of knowledge about a subject is the key to determining expert status. As I see you have a mechanic for your bike and I bet he/she has knowledge of your bike that they do not share with you. As you stated you are probably not an expert. I would not count myself among the experts either, but I can and do build many things for myself, engines included.

If you own, use, know the characteristics and proper use of these modified injectors, that is NOT second had information, it is first hand knowledge. In this case you do not have first hand knowledge. If you do, you have not provided any.

As far as you contributing to my project, if you would have provided some of the above mentioned information you might have contributed. I know I can learn many things from many people. Most times you learn thing from people that you never expected to learn them from. That most likely would have been the case if I would have gotten information about who was doing the modifications. I probably would have learned how to deal with some of the complications associated with the increased fuel delivery in the Busa EFI system. Again you did not provide any names.

I only asked for any one with Stock Throttle bodies for sale. How can you infer that I was on to something, when you do not know what I am doing with them. Maybe I need them for a Busa engine that will be going on a rail buggy and I did not get the EFI with the engine. That is not the case and I do like to follow all leads that may lead to more HP when I do receive complete information.

I agree with you that what seems to be a trivial bit of information to one person may in fact be very important. History is full of this. I bet that some one I recently spoke to would agree. -10 :)

FRANK do not try to come off as though you have never come down on someone on this Message Board. I have read your threads where you did not get the information you wanted and were not very nice (nitrous kit availability ). Now you have gotten some of your own MEDS.

As for you thinking before you give me information next time, PLEASE do. Maybe that way it will be concise and complete information!

I have very thick skin so there are no hard feeling here either, so If you would like to take a second stab at giving us a name, #, etc. I would be glad to listen.

EXCLR8
 
THE MOTORHEAD

I have not confirmed it for my self just yet but I was told at stock fuel pressure and map > 85% is already the case. I will know more this weekend. If you have 1st hand info to the contrary please post the injector timming, RPM, TP, ect. data.

Thanks
EXCLR8
 
The stuff I've heard on these injectors(which could be wrong) was that there is a little programing changes. (fuel curves maybe)
I was told that the ecu makes up for most of the changes.(larger injectors)

At only $80 dollars each, I think it's worth a little research.

Like I said, I'm not ready for them now. I need to dial the entire bike in first. Only thing that has Me bugged now is...do I play with the fuel injectors or the Nitrous first?
It would be interesting to see how much improvement the injectors would give a big motor with big valves?
 
this system is a speed density typenot mass air so higher fuel demands need pulse width changes etc to compensate for increased demands beyond oem mapping
 
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