Saw that but with MR-12 its like 10 hp so they are claiming 197 lets say 187 with pump gas? Need more info thanksSeems if you want a handheld tuner style ecu flash it's on the way. Also they have some rather interesting velocity stacks. Waiting to see real world test of these.
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If I remember right it’s stock with their stacks, their tune and their stacks, their tune on MR12 and their stacks.Saw that but with MR-12 its like 10 hp so they are claiming 197 lets say 187 with pump gas? Need more info thanks
185 hp is what all of them with bolt ons make with woolich reflash any stacks and pump gas.If I remember right it’s stock with their stacks, their tune and their stacks, their tune on MR12 and their stacks.
~185 wheel with full bolt ons and stacks is more than most people are ready to handle. It should help people get over the Gen 3 will never hold their own BS
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Suzuki never did anything to out-perform the ZX14R once it surpassed the gen 2 in performance...it makes sense the ZX14R will have more power than a gen 3 Hayabusa.It matters to no one but me, but I'm OK with my Gen 3 Not out dynoing my SLR flashed ZH2, but I don't like that I can flash my 2014 ZX14r and out HP my Gen 3. (Of course, I could just me happy for my ZX 14's numbers.)
--only because of the 9-year age difference.
Kawi has not needed to upgrade the 14, but they usually also strike back. I heard Kawi was going to kill the 14, but they still haven't. Maybe they won't since the Gen 3 seems to be popular?Suzuki never did anything to out-perform the ZX14R once it surpassed the gen 2 in performance...it makes sense the ZX14R will have more power than a gen 3 Hayabusa.
Suzuki gave up on creating a street dominator and Kawasaki dropped the ZX figuring the H2 would take its place.
But I digress as you probably already know all that.
Have they made it Euro5 yet? Thats a big update to make to a bike. Its kept the GSXR out of Europe so far.Kawi has not needed to upgrade the 14, but they usually also strike back. I heard Kawi was going to kill the 14, but they still haven't. Maybe they won't since the Gen 3 seems to be popular?
Good point. I can't find the 14 on Kawi Germany, nor Sweden. I used to find and compare the UK 14r to ours. It's no longer on the UK site. It's hit and miss in some South American Countries, and some get two colors.Have they made it Euro5 yet? Thats a big update to make to a bike. Its kept the GSXR out of Europe so far.
The 14R is dead in every country but the US. As others have said it doesn’t meat Euro5 and I don’t believe Kawi has said they will update it. At one point it was rumored to get another version of the H2 power plant but that info hasn’t been updated since the COVID worldwide BS..Kawi has not needed to upgrade the 14, but they usually also strike back. I heard Kawi was going to kill the 14, but they still haven't. Maybe they won't since the Gen 3 seems to be popular?
So close .......... almost every country....The 14R is dead in every country but the US. As others have said it doesn’t meat Euro5 and I don’t believe Kawi has said they will update it. At one point it was rumored to get another version of the H2 power plant but that info hasn’t been updated since the COVID worldwide BS..
Price has a major factor in that. Also folks get them and are terrified of them after riding them. No color options is a no go for many as well.The real problem is sales, like the H2 they aren’t selling nearly what Kawasaki had planned..
If the H2 is like my Z H2, they are more popular in Europe than the USA, but all of the Z series, it's not just the supercharged model.Price has a major factor in that. Also folks get them and are terrified of them after riding them. No color options is a no go for many as well.
that deserves a picture… My 14r is parked by my 99 Copper and for now, they're both keepers.
I was just out on my flashed '20 ZH2 today and I keep waffling on spending 30K for the H2 before tweaks that would just sit way too much...
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I took a few, but I'm ashamed about how cluttered I let my garage get. I have no excuses this time of the year, it's not 120° + in the garage. (I also live on a busy street and hate leaving the door open.)that deserves a picture
Oh hell no, the ZX14 is a fun ride, a little cushier, and you sit in the bike rather than on it, and yeah it's got a lovely strong engine. You should definitely try it. But if you are in the top third of the RPM range and you find yourself coming up fast on some short driver whose head is barely taller than the steering wheel driving a Honda Fit in the passing lane, making that lane change at speed will very quickly make you wish you were back on your Hayabusa.One of my riding buddies has a zx14 and keeps offering it up to me for a test ride..
I keep turning him down ….. I know it can out pace my Gen2, but don’t want to physically experience it for real…
I’ll keep ignoring him…