Pumping seawater into the reactors in an effort to keep them cool

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Ok so....what are they doing with that water when they are done with it?
They've said that more than one time the fuel rods had become exposed to the air and then they got more seawater onto them. In order to keep the reactor cores cool they have to constantly replenish the supply of seawater.
Alot of it from heat gets boiled off but what are they doing with the rest ?
Are they circulating it back into the sea? In an effort to avert a much larger problem are they not concerned with polluting the oceans with radioactive water?
 
It's easy to sit back, speculate, and point fingers when you aren't the one in the position of trying to save lives. I am sure there will be major impacts because of this however they need to do whatever it takes to stabilize and control those reactors.
 
It's easy to sit back, speculate, and point fingers when you aren't the one in the position of trying to save lives. I am sure there will be major impacts because of this however they need to do whatever it takes to stabilize and control those reactors.

Where do you think most of the food comes from in Japan. Well, at least the protein.
 
So are you saying, screw the people, let the reactors fry?

I think the concern here is they are trading a short term screwing for a long term screwing if they don't handle the contaminated water properly. I know arm chair QB is easy.
 
I think the concern here is they are trading a short term screwing for a long term screwing if they don't handle the contaminated water properly. I know arm chair QB is easy.

Exactly.... I won't pretend to know much about this situation, but if they do not make careful and calculated decisions, this situation can end up a whole lot worse.
 
I'm not sure how much damage was done to the system but I do know that a nuclear plant in TX allows fishing in their cooling lakes.
 
Exactly.... I won't pretend to know much about this situation, but if they do not make careful and calculated decisions, this situation can end up a whole lot worse.

If they don't get that thing cooled off, it's not going to matter where the run off is going. It's the lesser of two evils. I'm sure they are doing all they can to mitigate the impact of and contain their response, but given the choice of a radioactive release or a full blown meltdown.......What's the best choice? A release is insignificant compared to a meltdown. I think it's a given it's going to get worse, it's basically uncontained and out of control at this point.
 
I'm not trying to armchair quarterback. Just asking if anyone knows if that's what is going on or not ? The reactor here in SoFla is Turkey Point and there are always manatees swimming in large groups in the cooling lakes as well. They go there because the water is warmer than anywhere else. So using seawater to cool a contained unit is common. I'm wondering if the seawater they are using is actually coming in contact with the fuel rods and then going back out to sea? Agreed they need to do whatever they can to fix things.
In the end it's gonna come down to dropping some big bombs on those things to put out the fires and bury the radioactive material under tons of concrete and rubble.
 
Im not sure either, its a mess- but Im with you guys..I think its going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better.
 
I can barely watch any news coverage of this event anymore, because it seems like all the news shows are hoping for the worst news possible, a meltdown. I still don't think its quite as bad as it sounds yet, just because of the sensationalism. They new that they were building these plants on a seismic faultline, so they were built very very well. And I know that these Japanese engineers are some of the smartest in the world. I wish that we got only the facts, and not a bunch of speculation and hyperbole.
 
As far as I know, all the seawater gets boiled off to steam and some mineral deposits remain. The steam is released through radioactve screening devices to remove radiation.
Any nuke operaters on the board?
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I can barely watch any news coverage of this event anymore, because it seems like all the news shows are hoping for the worst news possible, a meltdown. I still don't think its quite as bad as it sounds yet, just because of the sensationalism. They new that they were building these plants on a seismic faultline, so they were built very very well. And I know that these Japanese engineers are some of the smartest in the world. I wish that we got only the facts, and not a bunch of speculation and hyperbole.

Reminds me of Dirty Laundry by Don Henley......
 
As far as I know, all the seawater gets boiled off to steam and some mineral deposits remain. The steam is released through radioactve screening devices to remove radiation.
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thats what i was thinking
 
As far as I know, all the seawater gets boiled off to steam and some mineral deposits remain. The steam is released through radioactve screening devices to remove radiation.
Any nuke operaters on the board?
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Under normal operations the primary cooling system is not vented to the atmosphere.
 
If they don't get that thing cooled off, it's not going to matter where the run off is going. It's the lesser of two evils. I'm sure they are doing all they can to mitigate the impact of and contain their response, but given the choice of a radioactive release or a full blown meltdown.......What's the best choice? A release is insignificant compared to a meltdown. I think it's a given it's going to get worse, it's basically uncontained and out of control at this point.

I suspect they may NOT be mitigating the impact, for multiple reasons.
Look at some of the posts here already. Deal with the consequences now, don't worry about later. That can be a recipe for disaster when you are talking about radiation exposure. Poison the land or the water, that stuff is poisoned for decades.


I'm not trying to armchair quarterback. Just asking if anyone knows if that's what is going on or not ? The reactor here in SoFla is Turkey Point and there are always manatees swimming in large groups in the cooling lakes as well. They go there because the water is warmer than anywhere else. So using seawater to cool a contained unit is common. I'm wondering if the seawater they are using is actually coming in contact with the fuel rods and then going back out to sea? Agreed they need to do whatever they can to fix things.
In the end it's gonna come down to dropping some big bombs on those things to put out the fires and bury the radioactive material under tons of concrete and rubble.

These plants have closed loop systems, which means animals are not exposed to radiation - supposed to be safe. That is the question here, if they are putting sea water on an open system and contaminating well, I don't know, everything? Simply put, a great question, for the experts, is if they are applying the wrong solution to their problem.

I can barely watch any news coverage of this event anymore, because it seems like all the news shows are hoping for the worst news possible, a meltdown. I still don't think its quite as bad as it sounds yet, just because of the sensationalism. They new that they were building these plants on a seismic faultline, so they were built very very well. And I know that these Japanese engineers are some of the smartest in the world. I wish that we got only the facts, and not a bunch of speculation and hyperbole.

I agree with you here, partially the reason I am avoiding reading about this situation.

React now and think later.......although, polluted water over a nuclear disaster is reasonable.

React now and think later is a horrible idea. What does it matter if you die a quick and painful death now or a slow and painful death later? That is what will happen if you poision your food supply with radiation. Hell, most of the world's fish is already so contaminated with toxins that it is not recommended to eat more than one serving of fish a month.

Under normal operations the primary cooling system is not vented to the atmosphere.

Correct

I'm not trying to armchair quarterback this thing. I simply worry that the Japanese might be screwing themselves and possible worse - affecting the whole region, with panic decisions now. If they poision or even kill fish populations in the ocean - that will have a global impact. There are THOUSANDS of islands in the south pacific that live off of fish, these island populations will starve to death if they lose that source of food.

I have no idea how much contamination would be necessary for this to happen though :dunno: Hell, it may happen regardless.

As a poster has already suggested, we are getting media sensationalism sprinkled with half-assed or even wrong facts/evidence. I am simply worried about the situation and share the initial posters concerns of actions taken thus far... As reported by the media.

Anyone know what the effects would be if there ARE meltdowns, probably will contaminate the water anyway.
 
Not a nuke tech but I do have a little knowledge on what happens to the water.

I am sure the water is ran through a system to filter it out. Like reverse osmosis, when water is contaminated with chemicals and such is is then ran though a ROWPU (reverse osmosis water purification unit) unit to cleanse.

Not saying that this is what they are doing but....more then likely. I cant see anyone being that stupid as to release radiation into the sea. But who knows, common sense is not a job requirement for most places.
 
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