Ron Paul
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Dude really needs to take his meds. It would be nice if someone we seny to Washington would consider the people.
sportcustoms71
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fix his teeth
What will happen if Ron Paul get elected as Presidient?
First thing he will have to do is start making deals with the House and Senate.
If the President could do everything he wanted we would be Socialist.
Everyone make a note ..... wait ....... wait for it ........ I agree
We should have elected Ross Perot.
Ron Paul is my freakin hero! Wish more people would give him a fair chance. He's the only man that deserves my vote in 2012. Of course he will have to work with the house to get anything done, that's just how it is. You have to think about it though, if he gets elected that in and of itself is a strong message to congress. The people will have shown what they want for their country. If the representatives want to keep their comfy seats, they'll have to work with him or get voted out next go round. The winds of change are blowing and it feels great!
Funny you said that; I just came back in here to talk about spoilers, and that's all Ron Paul will end up doing ......... putting Obama back in to finish our country off.
The man was a true visionary and knew the future but nobody took him seriously
'can I finish? Can I finish?'
'can I finish? Can I finish?'
And why would you think that?
Lucid
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^^ Because he won't get the republican nomination. So if he runs, it'll be as a 3rd party candidate, taking votes away from the Republican candidate, almost guaranteeing obama's reelection.
Unfortunately in this media age, Ron Paul is unelectable, and won't ever be president. I do like his role in politics though. His voice gets debates started that would not otherwise have been started. His voting record, while commendable on it's surface (never voting "yes" on a single tax increasing bill, regardless of it's other content) is not really having a "spine" or leadership, it's ideology plain and simple. While he's right most of the time, if you watched the last (R) debate on Fox, every candidate said they would veto any bill that raised taxes, even if it was 10:1 spending cuts to tax increases. This ideology would certainly be extended to a bill with 100:1, 10,000:1 etc, which is not leadership. If you came to me as president with a bill that cut spending, ended all of our wars, made our borders bulletproof, incentivized business like eliminated tax on repatriated profits, permanently sets precedent to end cap and tax, enacts a fairtax or flat tax, etc, and the only stipulation was that everyone making over $3m a year paid in $1.00 extra in taxes, I'd sign the damn thing. (and this mindset could be extended to more reasonable legislation brought to my desk as president)
Ross Perot was before his time. If he came out in 2016 or maybe even 2012, he would be president. The atmosphere wasn't perfect for him back when he ran like it is now.
The initial video is the exact reason why Neil Boortz says that the main thin Ron Paul has going against him is his supporters. A lot of them are rational liberty minded people like myself. But a lot of them are...well...like that guy in the video, and make their over-enthusiasm public.
Unfortunately in this media age, Ron Paul is unelectable, and won't ever be president. I do like his role in politics though. His voice gets debates started that would not otherwise have been started. His voting record, while commendable on it's surface (never voting "yes" on a single tax increasing bill, regardless of it's other content) is not really having a "spine" or leadership, it's ideology plain and simple. While he's right most of the time, if you watched the last (R) debate on Fox, every candidate said they would veto any bill that raised taxes, even if it was 10:1 spending cuts to tax increases. This ideology would certainly be extended to a bill with 100:1, 10,000:1 etc, which is not leadership. If you came to me as president with a bill that cut spending, ended all of our wars, made our borders bulletproof, incentivized business like eliminated tax on repatriated profits, permanently sets precedent to end cap and tax, enacts a fairtax or flat tax, etc, and the only stipulation was that everyone making over $3m a year paid in $1.00 extra in taxes, I'd sign the damn thing. (and this mindset could be extended to more reasonable legislation brought to my desk as president)
Ross Perot was before his time. If he came out in 2016 or maybe even 2012, he would be president. The atmosphere wasn't perfect for him back when he ran like it is now.
The initial video is the exact reason why Neil Boortz says that the main thin Ron Paul has going against him is his supporters. A lot of them are rational liberty minded people like myself. But a lot of them are...well...like that guy in the video, and make their over-enthusiasm public.
Not really sure how his voting record reflects a lack of spine.... I think it shows that he has a solid steel spine that never waivers, breaks, or bends to what is popular with the rest of the polititions that are bought and paid for by wall street. A man with no ideaology and no firm belief cannot lead as he would have no true direction and is open to influence. That said, there are times when a leader must be flexible to a certain degree. In your scenario, flexibility would be key to make it work and I don't think anyone would shoot it down but, why would you have to increase taxes to decrease government spending...ever? That makes no sense.
On the other side of things, I can see your point if he does not get the GOP nomination. I know it's a long shot but I'm quite tired of choosing the lesser of two evils when in reality they are one in the same evil packaged with a different name. Choosing the lesser of two evils only slows the agenda of the elite unfortunately. America needs a drastic change and I believe in my heart of hearts that Ron Paul has shown us the way even if he doesn't gain any ground in the election. His loss at the primary would force me to re-consider where my vote gets placed.... I sure as heck don't want Obama again.
Rothman, I would probably really like Ron Paul and agree with him on almost everything, but our system is what it is. He will not get the Republican nomination. If he runs he will be just like Ross Perot as a third party candidate and he will pull votes from the republican candidate, ensuring Obama's reelection. If Ron Paul loved this country, after losing the Republican nomination he would ask all his supporters to vote for the one that won, and not run as a third party candidate. If he's interested in the money that running for president produces, then .......
Schexy1
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I have to admit after reading up on him, I am almost ready to register republican so I can vote for this guy in the primaries.
I'm voting for Obama. Tired of waiting for Armageddon!
Bring it on
Strange how the Mayans predict the world will end in December 2012.
This will be one month after the election. Anyone remember where we were one month after the election between Bush/Gore?
On the edge we were. Who's to say an even bigger scandal doesn't arise and light the fire?
Bring it on
Strange how the Mayans predict the world will end in December 2012.
This will be one month after the election. Anyone remember where we were one month after the election between Bush/Gore?
On the edge we were. Who's to say an even bigger scandal doesn't arise and light the fire?
The Tekken
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You ARE joking right? I moved from England to this great country in the early 80's. Since then I have heard constantly about the widening gap between the haves and have-nots, how social security is failing, and how the times they are a-changin'. No what's changed in 30 years? Absolutely nothing!
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