RussellJ Make This Right Man!!

[isiahstites]

You have forced me to make this public, I tried to work this out with you via PM. However I do not take kindly to being ignored, you have left me no choice.

Here is your ad with your description:

Used Yoshi RS-3 Dual slip ons. I have removed the baffles and packing for a little more throaty sounds. They were nice when I had them on. I switched to carbon fiber ones which I removed the baffles and packing from. These are not obnoxiously loud at all. Yoshi still have quieter slip ons than most even with the baffles removed. I love the sound of my Yoshi's

These are in pretty good shape with a small dent on the underside that you cannot see mounted on the bike. Small bit of rust on the rings that can be replaced for a few bucks buying new ones from Yoshimura USA.

In your add you stated there was a small dent on the underside. As you can see in my photos that there are lots of dings and lots of scratches. I would assume that most of them happened in shipping due to the fact that the pipes, mids nuts and bolts were able to move around due to lack of packing.

The first time I picked the box up to move it the garage and heard the clinking and clanging inside I new it wasn't going to be good. Here is what the box looked liked once opened. As you can see all of your card board separators moved to the top because you didn't fill the box with anything else to keep things in place.

Here is what was under the cardboard. Pipes and mids wrapped once with small, thin bubble wrap.

Here is the plastic bag that held the nuts and bolts, it was empty upon removal and all nuts and bolts were floating around in the box.

Everything removed from the box except the floating nuts and bolts.

Here is the inside of the box, you can see all the gauging in the sides from everything moving around.

 

[isiahstites]

Here are both mufflers and all the dings, dents, scratches and scuffs.......hardly what you described. I think you said in pretty good shape with one dent. I marked the things that I believed to be existing from looking at your photos.

I also labeled each exhaust # 1 and # 2 and then as you rotate the exhaust it goes 1.1 - 1.2 - 1.3.......2.1 - 2.2 - 2.3

 

[isiahstites]

I received something that was not what you advertised because of lack of packing in such a large box. Had you filled it with peanuts it would of been perfect.

I just want you to make this right, one as a ORG member and two as a fellow Marine.

 

[GIXERHP]

So have you contacted your means of payment?

As to the Sharpie markings on the cans now, is that going to come off?

How long has this been going on for?

 

[isiahstites]

PayPal and the sharpie will come off with no problem, just want him to make it right.

 

[GIXERHP]

PayPal and the sharpie will come off with no problem, just want him to make it right.

Then dispute the PP transaction!

 

[ogre]

imho, all of it besides the ONE dent can be easily polished out. and my guess is that one dent is the one he was talking about. and yes, they could've been packed better, but i'm guessing you paid much less than retail for these. i think by "good", you thought he meant "perfect". just throwing my 2¢ in.

 

[isiahstites]

imho, all of it besides the ONE dent can be easily polished out. and my guess is that one dent is the one he was talking about. and yes, they could've been packed better, but i'm guessing you paid much less than retail for these. i think by "good", you thought he meant "perfect". just throwing my 2¢ in.

Please don't assume what you think I thought.

I saw the photos before paying and was told about the dent on the bottom. My issues is the packaging was terrible and caused even more damage/blemishes.

Sure I paid less than retail, do I not have the right to receive something in advertised condition after a price is agreed upon?

So is your logic that because I paid less than retail I should be happy with the transaction?

I was also told the box was going to be insured, it was not.

 

[Hayabusa4life]

I hope you guys can work something out.

 

[isiahstites]

I hope you guys can work something out.

I do to.....

 

[busa186]

What do you want him to do? Besides make it right. Are you looking for a refund, discount, apology?

I don't know how you feel or the entire story. But you seem really angry. You are biting at the bit every time someone responds. I would take a step back and relax a bit. Worst case you still got a good deal. Best case you send em back and he refunds them. I buy them and powder coat them black.

I do agree, you received damaged material. I would want my money back. How long have you been trying to reach him?

sent using my middle finger on tapatalk

 

[isiahstites]

What do you want him to do? Besides make it right. Are you looking for a refund, discount, apology?

I don't know how you feel or the entire story. But you seem really angry. You are biting at the bit every time someone responds. I would take a step back and relax a bit. Worst case you still got a good deal. Best case you send em back and he refunds them. I buy them and powder coat them black.

I do agree, you received damaged material. I would want my money back. How long have you been trying to reach him?

sent using my middle finger on tapatalk

Well I apologize if I seem really angry, I am not, I am more a bit thrown back by the fact that I know he read my last two PM's and ingnored both, this after he blew off the fact that the package was packed improperly and tried to play it off as if there was no issue.

Also after going through my PM's he said he was going to insure the box and did not.

What do I want? I asked for a partial refund.

 

[busa186]

Well I apologize if I seem really angry, I am not, I am more a bit thrown back by the fact that I know he read my last two PM's and ingnored both, this after he blew off the fact that the package was packed improperly and tried to play it off as if there was no issue.

Also after going through my PM's he said he was going to insure the box and did not.

What do I want? I asked for a partial refund.

That's to bad. I hope it works out. Do you think you can find those cans for a lesser price in that condition? I know its hard to walk away, but something to consider. Let karma do its thing. He seems like he frequents the board often, I doubt he wants that kind of reputation. But to look at him from his side... I would offer a full refund plus shipping and wipe my hands clean.
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[GIXERHP]

Im sure something will be worked out!

But keep your options open!

 

[Hayabusa4life]

Well I apologize if I seem really angry, I am not, I am more a bit thrown back by the fact that I know he read my last two PM's and ingnored both, this after he blew off the fact that the package was packed improperly and tried to play it off as if there was no issue.

Also after going through my PM's he said he was going to insure the box and did not.

What do I want? I asked for a partial refund.

By the way I read the thread and those pics I thought you were really angry. But that on the side now...
Who was the carrier?

 

[kennym4]

You're not going to find USED pipes with out some scratches, and dings (not saying anything about this transaction, don't know what you paid). I learned my lesson with buying used pipes. When I payed for mine a few years ago they were still on the guys Busa, looked pretty good, and sounded GREAT. once on mine I don't think they sound anywhere near to how they did on his Bike, but I only paid $500.00 for a full pipe. I guess you get what you (I mean I) pay for. Next time I'll just spend the few extra $$$'s and get new


Hope this works out Brother !!

 

[Rainbow7]

You have forced me to make this public

No, you have chosen to make this public. If Russell advertised these pipes on this site, you should have dealt with this through the moderators rather than make a big public issue out of it.

 

[2Wheels2Live]

Well I apologize if I seem really angry, I am not, I am more a bit thrown back by the fact that I know he read my last two PM's and ingnored both, this after he blew off the fact that the package was packed improperly and tried to play it off as if there was no issue.

Also after going through my PM's he said he was going to insure the box and did not.

What do I want? I asked for a partial refund.

I feel for you.....those pipes are crap. Hope you didn't pay more than a few hundred bucks for them. I can ALWAYS find screaming clearance/discount prices on new anything online, including pipes, so I almost never buy used. I also like my bike looking pretty much spotless though too, so anything less than brand new scratch free isn't acceptable to me. If I know someone well and can trust them, or can see the stuff in person, I'll still buy used.....otherwise never.

 

[MC MUSTANG]

Isiah,
I know Russell, and while I am not questioning the manner in which you received the pipes, I am certain that the package was not intentionally shipped badly or that he purposefully mistreated you. Do me a favor and forward the pm's to me. Let's see I we can get all this cleared up without any mud slinging.

Russell, if you read this, please give me a call.

 

[BMW5]

Good luck working this out with RussellJ. Similar things have happened to me in the past where I had received product in worst condition than was described in the ad. I feel your pain and disappointment.