scariest thing ever written to date.

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I know some people care and some do not...but here are a few finer points to early reviews of what is now a document of law in our land...it's sad that we as a people of this planet have come to things like this.

215 does extend FBI power to conduct essentially warrantless records searches, especially on people who are not themselves terror suspects, with little or no judicial oversight

Previously the government needed at least a warrant and probable cause to access private records. The Fourth Amendment, Title III of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968, and case law provided that if the state wished to search you, it needed to show probable cause that a crime had been committed and to obtain a warrant from a neutral judge. Under FISA—the 1978 act authorizing warrantless surveillance so long as the primary purpose was to obtain foreign intelligence information—that was somewhat eroded, but there remained judicial oversight. And under FISA, records could be sought only "for purposes of conducting foreign intelligence" and the target "linked to foreign espionage" and an "agent of a foreign power." Now the FBI needs only to certify to a FISA judge—(no need for evidence or probable cause) that the search protects against terrorism. The judge has no authority to reject this application.

The difference they don't acknowledge is that investigators may now do so secretly, and these orders cannot be contested in court. While the new DOJ Web site asserts that searches under 215 are limited to "business records," the act on its face allows scrutiny of "any tangible thing" including books, records, papers, documents, and anything else. The site also says U.S. citizens may not be subject to search, but the act does not differentiate.

Seriously...if you have a little time...read through the document...get to know what is coming down hill...cause it will run you over if not.
PDF copy available H E R E

My site in HTML too...H E R E

The original has been amended a bit since introduction and becoming law....only to become more restrictive to the American public and less restrictive to the investigating bodies.
I will be going through and highlighting a few of the more interesting point on the HTML version over the next week or two.
 
Our rights are slowly being eroded in the name of the war on terror. People are swallowing it whole, without even asking when these rights will be restored. I don't think they ever will be, we're giving away what was fought for, without as much as a whine of proteset. Our nation truly has become filled with complacent lemmings......
 
Lemmings...so true...
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Hell, I thought it was insane that laws have been proposed to BAN smoking in your own damn car...I'm not even a smoker, but I see erosion of our rights all around and hear so little complaining about it all...I don't get it...
 
This is what happens when more and more people depend on the government. The more the government does for its people the more laws it passes. Before you know it, we'll be a socialists republic...

If I had my way, gov would only be Fire, Police, Parks, Military, and R&D. That's it. There would be no welfare, medicare, social security, ....
And there would be no seat belt laws, helmet laws, the law described above, smoking laws, etc... Gov should not be making these kind of laws...
 
This is what happens when more and more people depend on the government. The more the government does for its people the more laws it passes. Before you know it, we'll be a socialists republic...

If I had my way, gov would only be Fire, Police, Parks, Military, and R&D. That's it. There would be no welfare, medicare, social security, ....
And there would be no seat belt laws, helmet laws, the law described above, smoking laws, etc... Gov should not be making these kind of laws...
I'm with you except on the smoking laws....I love watching people sweat their ass off outside the restaurant so they can puff away.
 
Patriot Act= they have access to get or take whatever they want when they want it without your permission, that even includes your medical records !
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Govt scare tactics have worked so well on American peepz here lately in the past, that they're practically giving their rights away, so the boogie man cant gett'em.
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I see your Franklin and raise you a Hitler.

How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. --Adolf Hitler
 
Moral of the story...

If you are clean, you have nothing to worry about.

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That's precisely NOT the moral of the story.
I have nothing to hide, therefore I do not want the government looking. They are slowly eroding the rights and privelliges that were fought and died for, guaranteed by the constitution, simply because they hold the spectre of terrorism over our heads. If the trampling of our rights were A) for a determinate amount of time,
B) able to save lives
C) strictly used to combat terrorism
it would be different. The government is steadily taking away things they have no business doing, simply because they can. The longer we allow it, the worse it's gonna get. Those of us who have nothing to hide need to be treated as innocent until proven guilty. Sound familiar?
 
Moral of the story...

If you are clean, you have nothing to worry about.

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I don't know Tom...I've seen you posting up pics of chicks lately...don't want Big Brother seeing that!  
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I'm kidding...or am I?  
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The real mystery is.... the picture of the emaciated woman, who is she? She is actually semi-famous in LA!

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I am proud to say I don't have a clue who she is!!! A friend of yours?
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That's precisely NOT the moral of the story.
I have nothing to hide, therefore I do not want the government looking. They are slowly eroding the rights and privelliges that were fought and died for, guaranteed by the constitution, simply because they hold the spectre of terrorism over our heads. If the trampling of our rights were A) for a determinate amount of time,
B) able to save lives
C) strictly used to combat terrorism
it would be different. The government is steadily taking away things they have no business doing, simply because they can. The longer we allow it, the worse it's gonna get.  Those of us who have nothing to hide need to be treated as innocent until proven guilty. Sound familiar?
Hear, hear!!
 
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