Thoughts on 2 steps

chowda633

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I used one for years in my race car and it made a world of difference loved it. One less thing to worry about.

Thoughts on using them on bikes? I think it will really help me get out of the hole. Ordering early as tomorrow what do you guys think?
 
chowda, I dont think that will help you in any way, in fact it will hurt your starts, seat time is what you need, imo

wee
 
If you are leaving the line at wide open throttle at something above 4500, then yes a 2-step is a good tool. I leave at 6k WOT, and still haven't gotten around to getting a 2-step, but it is something I may do over the winter.

If your not leaving WOT, then a 2 step isn't a good idea, until your chassis setup is ready to handle it.

If you race ET, there are scenarios were they can be difficult to use. For example, If you are running 9.0 and the guy your racing is dialed 13, there might be a problem with being on the 2 step for 4 - 5 seconds.

Chowda,
Track prep at NED should be great this Saturday and Sunday. Its a points day, so the track is stickier than ...
 
I got the schnitz adjustabe launch box thats prob what your refering to because you have built in down track over rev stock on a busa.I really like mine my times got better close 2 tenths prob because you look down @ tach getting into lights but then you have concentrate on lights in most cases the rpm is dropping off a bit.This way your leaving @ exact rpm each time.Theres 1 on this bike hear it kick in.
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One less thing 2 worry about so you can kill the tree easy i.m.o.

draco said For example, If you are running 9.0 and the guy your racing is dialed 13, there might be a problem with being on the 2 step for 4 - 5 seconds.


Just dont get on it till your lights drop thats what I do
 
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I"m running the msd luanch control, great tool, but you need to fine tune it so when you ease out on the clutch to that fine point were you start feeling the clutch, you dont go wide open. I have a way to tune it but its a long explane. If your interested let me know and I"ll go though it. ( I"m leaving at 7800 rpms)
 
I just put mine on, but haven't had a chance to try it out at the track yet. It is an easy install.
 
I just put mine on, but haven't had a chance to try it out at the track yet. It is an easy install.

I BET YOU LIKE IT R YOU BRACKET RACING?
Should help keep you running same #
Im running shinko slick+bare but i have mine @ 8,100 last week. I go from 7,600---8,100 about max afraid will blow clutch out if any higher
 
If you are leaving the line at wide open throttle at something above 4500, then yes a 2-step is a good tool. I leave at 6k WOT, and still haven't gotten around to getting a 2-step, but it is something I may do over the winter.

If your not leaving WOT, then a 2 step isn't a good idea, until your chassis setup is ready to handle it.

If you race ET, there are scenarios were they can be difficult to use. For example, If you are running 9.0 and the guy your racing is dialed 13, there might be a problem with being on the 2 step for 4 - 5 seconds.

Chowda,
Track prep at NED should be great this Saturday and Sunday. Its a points day, so the track is stickier than ...

Good info thanks guys. Great I got half telling me to use it and the other half saying no hahaha. Yes eventually I will join the bracket racing. This is a thing I want to continue to pursue. Might just bite the bullet and snag it up. It would be nice to pay attention to the tree instead of what rpm I am at.

Draco you racing both days? I plan to.
 
I got the schnitz adjustabe launch box thats prob what your refering to because you have built in down track over rev stock on a busa.I really like mine my times got better close 2 tenths prob because you look down @ tach getting into lights but then you have concentrate on lights in most cases the rpm is dropping off a bit.This way your leaving @ exact rpm each time.Theres 1 on this bike hear it kick in.
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One less thing 2 worry about so you can kill the tree easy i.m.o.

draco said For example, If you are running 9.0 and the guy your racing is dialed 13, there might be a problem with being on the 2 step for 4 - 5 seconds.


Just dont get on it till your lights drop thats what I do

I like it! Guy never put his visor down ha
 
I run a launchmaster set @ 6200 pin the throttle and go. Takes some getting used to but I love it. Prolly not a good idea for a rookie especially with a stock wheelbase bike....
 
i had a .012 rt last week in 2 test runs .017+.003 then started slipping because
clutch prob was nagging @ me went .034 + .060 +.041 did squeeze out $50
that makes 7 2nd place finishes this year.Prob should drop visor but my ride is ama legal passed tech indy.
 
Chowda,
Final ET series weekend coming up, so I will be up at NED. We can look at the bike and the timeslips and see what can be improved. For people relatively new to Drag Racing, I would generally recomend improvments to chassis, engine tuning, and weight reduction, but if you want to get a 2-step installed, by all means go for it.

1 more thing about 2 steps. There are generally 2 schools of thought for launching. Many pro classes that allow multi-stage lock ups "throw" the clutch away, and let the clutch do the work. Some even leave on a button. These guys generally all have 2 steps, but again this requires a lot of chassis or a bar. Most of these classes leave on a pro light, were you go when you see the top bulbs. This kind of light benefits from dumping the clutch. Top Bike up at NED is a Pro light class, and most of the regular street bikes can't cut the kind of light that a bar bike with a 2-step and multi stage clutch can run.

Most street bike classes without multi-stage clutches or lockups require you to ride the clutch. The trick to this kind of launch is getting to WOT as soon as possible, and getting the clutch out quickly. These classes generally leave on a staged .500 light, were you anticipate the launch and can better work the clutch. Very few riders with this kind of setup use 2-steps. This kind of light doesn't benenfit as much from a 2-step. The street bikes generally are just as good as the bikes with bars, clutches, and 2-steps.

My .02...
 
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Chowda,
Final ET series weekend coming up, so I will be up at NED. We can look at the bike and the timeslips and see what can be improved. For people relatively new to Drag Racing, I would generally recomend improvments to chassis, engine tuning, and weight reduction, but if you want to get a 2-step installed, by all means go for it.

1 more thing about 2 steps. There are generally 2 schools of thought for launching. Many pro classes that allow multi-stage lock ups "throw" the clutch away, and let the clutch do the work. Some even leave on a button. These guys generally all have 2 steps, but again this requires a lot of chassis or a bar. Most of these classes leave on a pro light, were you go when you see the top bulbs. This kind of light benefits from dumping the clutch. Top Bike up at NED is a Pro light class, and most of the regular street bikes can't cut the kind of light that a bar bike with a 2-step and multi stage clutch can run.

Most street bike classes without multi-stage clutches or lockups require you to ride the clutch. The trick to this kind of launch is getting to WOT as soon as possible, and getting the clutch out quickly. These classes generally leave on a staged .500 light, were you anticipate the launch and can better work the clutch. Very few riders with this kind of setup use 2-steps. This kind of light doesn't benenfit as much from a 2-step. The street bikes generally are just as good as the bikes with bars, clutches, and 2-steps.

My .02...

Thank you for the great info. I decided not to get the 2-step based of you guys advice. Your right I need to learn how to launch on my own first. I did order a drag seat and a strap for the front. I need the seat because I have no ass lol and keep sliding away every time I launch. Thought about velcroing my ass to the seat?
 
good choice, post your times when you get out again, doesnt matter what they are as long as get better each time out.

wee
 
Chowda,
Final ET series weekend coming up, so I will be up at NED. We can look at the bike and the timeslips and see what can be improved. For people relatively new to Drag Racing, I would generally recomend improvments to chassis, engine tuning, and weight reduction, but if you want to get a 2-step installed, by all means go for it.

1 more thing about 2 steps. There are generally 2 schools of thought for launching. Many pro classes that allow multi-stage lock ups "throw" the clutch away, and let the clutch do the work. Some even leave on a button. These guys generally all have 2 steps, but again this requires a lot of chassis or a bar. Most of these classes leave on a pro light, were you go when you see the top bulbs. This kind of light benefits from dumping the clutch. Top Bike up at NED is a Pro light class, and most of the regular street bikes can't cut the kind of light that a bar bike with a 2-step and multi stage clutch can run.

Most street bike classes without multi-stage clutches or lockups require you to ride the clutch. The trick to this kind of launch is getting to WOT as soon as possible, and getting the clutch out quickly. These classes generally leave on a staged .500 light, were you anticipate the launch and can better work the clutch. Very few riders with this kind of setup use 2-steps. This kind of light doesn't benenfit as much from a 2-step. The street bikes generally are just as good as the bikes with bars, clutches, and 2-steps.

My .02...

Can I even race on sat? I am not part of the series.
 
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