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amazing...i don't understand any theory that claims anything other than we were created by a Being who had a plan in mind that we have since screwed up with our free will...this whole universe runs on such a tight program that i don't see how "chance" and "just happened" ever enter the discussion...the more i learn, the more i come to understand what a miracle life is and the less i take it for granted
 
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You do realize that laminin is a flexible chain of glycoproteins that only looks vaguely like a cross if you happen to catch it at the right moment from the exact right angle and squint your eyes just right, don't you?

It's not as if we all have these rigid little things shaped like the cacadeus floating around inside us, that's a scientific drawing, it's only representative of a cross in order to allow people to understand the structure of the protein chains.

Want to know what laminin really "looks like?" That won't spoil all the fun, will it?

Just a floppy little protein like all the other floppy little blob-like proteins that make up our bodies. I think I see Pele the soccer player in one of those, and that second to last one in the middle row looks suspiciously like Richard Nixon. Does that mean human beings were created by a retired Brazilian soccer star? Or does it mean Tricky Dicky was the one true savior?

If you stare into the darkness long enough you can see anything.
 
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amazing...i don't understand any theory that claims anything other than we were created by a Being who had a plan in mind that we have since screwed up with our free will...this whole universe runs on such a tight program that i don't see how "chance" and "just happened" ever enter the discussion...the more i learn, the more i come to understand what a miracle life is and the less i take it for granted
I think the reason we don't understand the viewpoints of others is because we choose our beliefs. Of course, we choose them for our own varying reasons.

Our choice of beliefs puts us in the precarious position of perhaps having to say we are right and the other guy is wrong. It doesn't necessarily have to be that way, though. To me, I don't see the reasons for believing in a supreme being. A primary reason for having chosen this belief is that I haven't seen evidence which is sufficient to satisfy my need to know.

By the same token, I have to have respect for the belief that others have chosen which tells them that this earth, everything in it and the wonders of the universe were all created by a divine presence. I have to respect the fact that they choose to acknowledge that presence with their devotion.

The hardest thing we can do is step outside ourselves and understand another person's vision of us from an objective point of view. To walk a mile in their moccasins while looking over our shoulder at ourselves. Can we do that? It's tough. It's key to remaining open-minded at all times.

From your perspective, Semi, it's a question of saying, "Yeah, I understand that you need to see God, Wag, but look around you! Can't you see that this couldn't have just all happened by coincidence?"

We thus start a dialog and trade moccasins for a while as we walk that path. If we come away from that journey of thought, we may not have changed belief but we may then understand each other's varying beliefs.

And that would be a very good thing.

An example of what NOT to do: Last month, I went to a family reunion with my very much believing extended family. Generally, everyone always leaves me alone with regard to my blackened wool but for some reason, one of my uncles took it upon himself to try to recruit me back into the faith. It was immediately apparent that he had no care whatever for my own beliefs and didn't want to hear anything about it.

Unfortunate. We could have had a good conversation had he been willing to have a rational discussion. He just had no intention of, "trading moccasins for a while." When we were done with our one-sided dialog, we were no further ahead than when we started.

What charges my batteries the most is knowing that I can have a discussion here and people are rational don't get all offended because of what someone else believes.

Thank you for that.

--Wag--
 
Well put Wag.


Many that believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ were not "born" that way and once walked the same path as those that do not believe to this day. I know that I was once one of those people. Thought I was "too smart" to have a belief in the idea of a "Supreme" being. Nobody "converted" me, that was a decision that I came to all by myself. I listened to what my heart/gut was telling me and all at once I knew. As I walk through life, I hope that I set the right example for my children and peers and I strive to be the "Man" that the Bible tells me I should be. I sit in Church on Sunday and look around and am amazed at how many women I see sitting there with their children while their husband(s) are at home. These women are the ones setting the example for their kids. I feel that it is a Man's place in life to set the example for his children. And I am not trying to convert or save anyone with my post, just expressing my thoughts on this topic.
 
I meant to say that many people only have one reason for their beliefs and that is that they were given their beliefs by their parents. Quite often, they will hold to those beliefs solely because they don't want to disrespect their parents by changing.

Many of these people have never challenged their beliefs in a serious way, and they don't know how they will respond should they discover that they are in need of a change. As a result of this lack of challenge, they really don't know why they believe what they do and that puts their beliefs into the realm of blind dogma. I can't say that I have all that much less respect for such people, however, it does make me wonder.

--Wag--
 
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