Wondering what the big deal is

[busa_bill]

Okay guy's, this is meant to be constructive, not criticism.

I had a couple years casual dirt bike use, and maybe 6 months of old old street bike experience (20 years ago). Recently, I had maybe 350 miles on my kids Yamaha 600 and a cycle safety course before I pulled the trigger on buying the '06.
This bike is tame when you want it to be, and the opposite when you so desire. I'm missing the conservative point here about working up to a Busa. I don't see as much of a need for experience as I do maturity. Any of the bikes today will give you trouble if that's what you're looking for. Conservative usage within your limits is the essential to anything in life.
If you're looking to ride on one wheel??? Yeah start with a smaller bike. If you're looking for new frontiers and something that will grow with you, get a Busa.

Inexperienced riders who still wear a superman cape need not apply.

 

[MN72Busa]

I'm missing the conservative point here about working up to a Busa. I don't see as much of a need for experience as I do maturity.

bill

I guess here's my $.02 on the conservative view. The Busa is a great bike, and sorta seduce's you into thinking all is cool, & makes you want to push your limits just a little more than maybe you should.

The Busa in stock form is potent, but the aftermarket list is endless as far as performance. And a person can get quite a bit more "Go factor" with just a little bit of $$$, thus waking up the sleeping Busa.

Put 10, or 15 thousand miles on the Busa & if you can honestly say you didn't have a "Pucker-Factor" moment with the Busa, than your a better, more experienced, wiser, and astute rider than many of us here, but I'm willing to bet with enough miles you will find out just what I'm talking about & why so many Busa riders here suggest working their way up to a Busa.

Welcome to the Forums, and welcome to the new world the Busa will open your eyes to....just becareful for what you think you want out of the Busa - You may just get it, and not know what to do with it, and not have much time to re-consider changing your request.

Stay safe

John -val



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[heavybusa]

Val is right on time here.

When I first got the King, I thought nothing could stop me.

That is until I cracked it open merging onto an on ramp and slid on my back for 20 yards.

Be safe and take it easy, I still pucker from time to time.

 

[bigern_05Busa]

Val is right on time here.

When I first got the King, I thought nothing could stop me.

That is until I cracked it open merging onto an on ramp and slid on my back for 20 yards.

Be safe and take it easy, I still pucker from time to time.

Welcome to the asylum brother. Both of my fellow board members couldn't have said it better. I don't try to ride one wheel nor stop on the front. I will stretch her legs once in a while but nothing to extreme, well, just once in a while. However, the Busa goes from cool, calm, and tranquil to a full out biotch on wheels with a 1/4 inch twist of the wrist. The ike isn't happy unless you are cruising at 90 and the faster you go the faster she wants you to go. The bike was built for speed, not casual sport touring through the countryside, although you can do it...

I say get it if you want it, just know that she will buck you off in a heartbeat if your not careful and that just because your level headed now doesn't mean when the throttle is in your hand you still will be. Learned that from experience too...

Be careful, have fun, and definitely buy and enjoy the Busa once you get her. Also stay around here and become a member. Many great members with plenty of knowledge on the greatest bike on the planet...

 

[ranman]

first thing is respect for the bike and your skills. it can bite you.
far as it being a sport tour a couple of simple mods and you can ride all day.

 

[BusaWhipped]

There are exceptions to every rule. But, the Busa isn't exactly your first bike. Keeping the RPMs below 6K and it's as tame as a big old cruiser. But open the throttle up and by 9K she's a handful and crossing 10K she's downright wicked. If you aren't prepared to handle it, you'll find yourself in big trouble real fast. Problem is, the only way to be prepared is through experience, and most new riders don't have the will power to hold the Busa back until they are ready for it to be unleashed.

 

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[MN72Busa]

Take me to your leader

 

[BusaWhipped]

Yeah, it's not only about how bad the Busa can hurt you at high speed, but how bad you can hurt the Busa at low speed. Just dropping it in your driveway can cost you a grand to fix.

 

[Revlis]

Ya Know this has come up before many times. Each time I just think OK sure, but just because I can safely navigate an F1 car around Monza doesn't mean I can actually use the thing worth a crap. There is a huge difference between being able to operate a motorcycle safely, and really being able to ride the thing.

Working at the dealership has exposed me to hundreds of folks buying bikes. Some are riders, here to pick up a new toy. Some are posers, here to pick up the latest and greatest dipped in Chrome. Then we have the Born agains, or the Mid-lifers and these are the guys that will scare the ever lovin outta ya. They already know everything, cannot get a small bike that's more suited because of ego and false bravado, and then show up at the dealership a week or two later beat to hell (Allways with a remarkable story about how they allmost saved it.) needing replacement parts or never show back up at all. Insurance guy gets the appraisal and we never see Mr. Ego again.

The Busa is just a bike, is like saying that a Ferrarri F430 is just a car. True enough if your just rolling around slow having never even opened the throttle to the stop in the first two gears, but otherwise just not true. Smaller less powerful bikes are far more forgiving of simple mistakes. So remember there is a learning curve out there and the Busa can and will catch you out if you are not paying attention.

If you are wondering what the big deal is, then you haven't really gotten on the throttle in first or second. I mean to the stop, to the redline, first through third. THAT's what the big deal is.

Oh and Wheeling it around the garage, that will let you know whats what as well.

 

[busa_bill]

There are 2 kind of bikes; those that have been dropped, and those that will be dropped. It happens to everyone along the way.
Even experienced riders. I'm sure we can all agree.

Agreed MSF course is the way to go. The riding experience gained is not apples to apples since the bikes are so small, but the technical information gives you a hightned sense of awareness. Very worthwhile for inexperienced and experienced alike.

Not everything you do in life has to bring the "drive it like you stole it" attitude. I can appreciate a Busa without having to test it's full limits.

 

[nitrousjunkie]

The speed isnt too much of a problem,its bringing that big bike back down to earth that gets alot of people in trouble,its a big,heavy bike.It doesnt stop on a dime.

 

[AlohaBusa]

I am new to the Busa (Feb 06) and although have posted a few comments, have not did the official introduction. Anyhow I think this is a great website and look forward to hopefully meeting face to face at some point.

If I might give my opinion on the Busa as a first bike. There are a couple of points 1) if someone is asking the question of if it is good for a first bike....they have already made up their mind regardless of what is said by more experienced riders such as most of you. 2) I have ridden since I was a young teenager, but have not personally owned a bike for about 10 years. I bought the Busa at first for its size and comfort for a "full figured" man. However, when the sales lady said it was also the fastest thing on the planet, that kind of sealed the deal. I have taken it slow getting back on a bike and getting used to riding again. I have found myself a couple of times needing toilet paper. I am sure you know what I mean. One bit of advice I have for brand new riders or moderately experience, as I consider myself, ride with experienced riders and ask lots of questions. Above all, let people know your riding ability and your limits. I have found fellow riders around Charlotte to be very helpful with information and riding tips. Unlike the days of the playground, rarely do I meet a fellow Busa owner who is too good to help a more novice rider or to make me feel unwelcomed because I am not an expert.

Short of it all, be mature, know your abilities and don't hide your inexperience.

Once again awesome website.

 

[hydrabusa]

well, no biggie, its just another motorcycle, go get it, and ride it, let us know how it feels...who says anything about big deal here. every one was scared when they first got em...so, welcome to the club...

 

[memorex]

I agree with Busabill. Any of the sport bikes out now can scare the crap out of you if you don't respect the bike. Hell, even the non sport bikes can. I just seen a guy on a Harley take a corner with to much lean and caught the foot rest and lost it. Layed her down and put a couple of scratches on the bike and him. Not to mention his pride. Ride with in your limits as well as the bikes'.

 

[warwgn]

90% of the problem with any bike is when you try to get rid of the chicken strips instead of just riding and not worring about them. Most any bike is well mannered on a straight stretch of road and requires little skill to control, but if you go to fast or lean too much the bike will out ride you and leave you sliding or tumbling arcoss the ground.

 

[05blkbusa]

I read on here for a bit before I actually purchased my 05. for a first time bike it was scaring me to get because of what everyone was saying, but now that i have and own i LOVE it. yea i understand how they say you have to respect it before you do anything on it.

which i did it took me a while to get on it and open her up a bit. just a lil here and there, and still havnt opened her up big time yet..... not mature enough and comfortable enough for it.

have fun and stay safe...

listen to everyone here there not beginners and they do know what to do and what there talking about

adam

 

[SPEEDEMON]

As a fairly new rider when I got my busa I have to say the only thing that matters is how responsible the person is.
I had no dirt biking experience, I still have never been on one, and I had no, and still no experience with a manual car I don’t think I could even drive one without stalling a bunch of times first

My first bike was a 04 kawi zx636, the bike scared the hell outta me, but I took it slow and carefully, I had it for 2 weeks until it was stolen then I didn’t ride a bike for a year and then I got the busa, so it’s safe to say this is my first bike.
It’s been a year now that I have owned it and I have to say it’s less scary than that twitchy little 600!!!
like said above any bike can be bad in the wrong hands, 130mph on a 600 is the same as 130mph on a busa, except the busa will be a hell of lot smoother and controllable than the 600...and I deff think the busa is a safer bike at high speeds than any other bike out there!
0-60 on the busa, 2.4sec 0-60 on the 600 2.9sec, is a beginner gonna notice the diff....? No is an experienced rider gonna notice.....? Most wont.
So does the fact that a bike that can go faster if pushed make it more dangerous....? I think not, but having an irresponsible rider at the controls than yeah I would have to say it would be more dangerous. But at the same time that irresponsible rider is gonna get hurt/killed on ANY bike he uses...

I don’t mean to bash anyone, especially not a person I trust more than most anyone I know and a lot of you know grabntwist on this forum and when we go riding he is a very safe rider and I trust him 100% when he is riding but I still have to say that I am more responsible then he is, he has literally tens of thousands of more miles and experience than I do and its deff very obvious by the way he handles his bike... but bec I am still a newbie I take it way slower and am more careful about everything hence making me more responsible, at the same time if I had the knowledge of riding and years of experienced I am sure I would be riding the same way he does.

as far as the busa being a first bike...it is an expensive one since it will prob be dropped a bunch of times but I deff think its more forgiving than any modern 1000, by far.

i also dont agree with ayone who says that the busa might be ok if i ride it the way i am riding it bec i am barely using its power, that BS bec i garentee unless you are on the track and are a pro rider neither are you using the bike to its potential! haha yeah right you are using all the bike on the street, if you feel you are pushing the bike to the limits i have news for you, you are pushing your own limits, not the bikes, haha



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[fstbusa]

15+yrs of offroad experiece + 0 miles of street experience = me buying busa as first streetbike 3 yrs ago.

depends on how mature and responsible you can be to the bike and it will be fine.