Woolich autotune Gen 3.
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Listen it's all plug and play. Your going to feed power to the unit via a cable with a y on it to the factory connector for the right o2 sensor. Remove the aftermarket Y if you have 1. On the cable they give you you'll see another end you need to plug in for power, just electrical tape it and forget it. The data cable looks like a phone cord, it plugs into your tune box you used to flash the bike. And the wideband well you can't goof it up. It's a pain to route the cable for the wideband because the ABS gives you little room. Route the wideband and power cables next to the negative side of the battery with the factory harness route.
You will however see 2 other things in the box, a serial cable and a connector with 4 wires, toss them both. You don't use them, they most come with the hardware both you don't use it. We don't use the relay crap. It's 100% plug and play.
You will however see 2 other things in the box, a serial cable and a connector with 4 wires, toss them both. You don't use them, they most come with the hardware both you don't use it. We don't use the relay crap. It's 100% plug and play.
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So I opened the box up and layer out everything. I look at the o2 sensor and it will not fit my exhaust. I damn sure not trying to have to drill and weld on my new $2800 titanium exhaust. @ME-Motorsports what do I need to make this work?
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Really messed up part is I have a Gen 2 exhaust but It has the small sized bung. It was imported from Japan though. I see that woolich has an adapter.
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Narrowbands and widebands use industry standard thread/pitch.
Narrowband = M12 x 1.25 - these are typically your factory O2 sensor sizes on most, but not all, bikes.
Wideband = M18 x 1.5 - these are typically your aftermarket O2 sensor sizes which most aftermarket exhausts will have bungs for them. Although on some newer bikes, such as the late model S1000RR they are coming with both narrowbands and widebands from the factory.
On the gen 3 Busa, I do not think they have widebands, they are narrowband sensors. As such you will need an adapter to fix the wideband to a narrowband bung or (preferably) have the narrowband bung knocked off and a wideband bung welded in it's place.
There are adapters out there, I have used this one twice (once on my EX400 race bike build and another on an H2 SX that was dropped off with me to develop our Race Tools package one) with good results.
Powersports 12mm to 18mm O2 Bung Adapter - P/N: 38350 > Accessories & Replacement Parts > Innovate Motorsports
Narrowband = M12 x 1.25 - these are typically your factory O2 sensor sizes on most, but not all, bikes.
Wideband = M18 x 1.5 - these are typically your aftermarket O2 sensor sizes which most aftermarket exhausts will have bungs for them. Although on some newer bikes, such as the late model S1000RR they are coming with both narrowbands and widebands from the factory.
On the gen 3 Busa, I do not think they have widebands, they are narrowband sensors. As such you will need an adapter to fix the wideband to a narrowband bung or (preferably) have the narrowband bung knocked off and a wideband bung welded in it's place.
There are adapters out there, I have used this one twice (once on my EX400 race bike build and another on an H2 SX that was dropped off with me to develop our Race Tools package one) with good results.
Powersports 12mm to 18mm O2 Bung Adapter - P/N: 38350 > Accessories & Replacement Parts > Innovate Motorsports
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They will be slightly delayed - but with our software one can adjust for such a delay. But the delay isn't going to be that drastic. We're talking milliseconds which could and likely would equate to roughly the same delay it takes for the exhaust gases to hit the O2 from staying at steady throttle and aggressively opening the throttle. This is actually why there is the exhaust gas offset variables in the software to compensate for that. But you can also manually delay it further if needed as well.
In terms of being off, I myself am one where it is is wideband bung or die. But on my EX400 project bike I welded two bungs, one on each runner, then had to use the adapter for the main (combined) AFR signal. My process was to tune one cylinder, move to the next cylinder, then use the combined AFR sample point to keep an eye on the tune and adjust both cylinders as needed as they would now both be perfectly balanced (both set to the same exact AFR and not having one lean cylinder offsetting/masking a good cylinder or vice versa). I'd have to go back and try to remember where all that data is as it's been 3 years plus since I worked on that bike. But from what I recall it wasn't terribly off at least to the point where I cared.
So yes, in the exhaust stream is by far the best and most appropriate method. But for those who can't there are provisions in place to where you can minimize this impact. Wouldn't be the best, but also wouldn't be to the point where you're worrying about your tune grenading a motor.
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On this topic, I'm trying to get logs on the gen3 without success, it won't create any logs as if there wasn't any info comming from the ECU. When connected to the PC in engine data mode it works just fine. Has anyone experienced the same? Just opened a ticket with WRT, but maybe someone has an answer already.
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sitting at the house in a bag along with the adapter from Woolich. I just havent had the chance to do it yet.Innovate 3835 12mm to 18mm Motorcycle O2 Bung Adapter | eBay
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I hope you have had more time than I have. I Just have to pop off the right side fairing and put the O2 sensor in. I ran everything else when I did the initial flash. Just havent had the spare time. Im either working, riding, or doing some other adulting thing thats in the way of actually getting this done. I did make sure to buy high temp anti seize as well.I need to get time to install all these parts waiting for this thing..
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