ZX-12 vs. BUSA comparison soon!!

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Seems there has been a lot of people making claims about Rickey these days. Hard to know what to believe anymore. Anybody know this "Billy" fellow? Sounds like he is causing problems?
 
"Billy"= Billy Vose. Hayabusa owner.
Knows a little bit about going fast. He rides a Pro Mod bike that goes 6's in the 1/4 mile on a regular basis.
 
Earl,
You probably have never gotten into any competetive racing scene. Street or track, it very much fueled by ego. That is the driving force that compels participants to modify and find the limits of their machines. The two parties involved are examples of this to the highest degree. Trash talking and challenges are byproducts of this and can also be very entertaining, so I for one am interested.
 
Race fans... What will this prove ? Who knows how much will the rider and how much will be the bikes ? Any knowlege out there ?
 
...as allways it is a combination of many factors...the best combo wins on a given point in time and space...er, day...
 
to me, you have to race in a series, over an extended time, to show dominance. Like hapo said, on any given day...
 
Turn em loose...no stock crap...bet that small cc kawa will see the busa tail lights..remember no replacement for displacement...
 
Check out this post from the ZX-12 site.

"Read this on the www.dragbike.com board.
Will we have this comparo soon???!!!

By rickeygadson (Rickeyg) on Thursday, October 14, 1999 - 10:48 pm:

Billy
First of all;
What are you talking about? What ZX-12 went only 9.8? What test bike are you referring too? Please
enlighten me since I am the only one with a released ZX-12 on the planet, and since I have not been
to the dragstrip yet, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????????
You need to go back and read the article about starting RUMORS that scooter wrote last month,
because you are just the kind of person he was talking about.
You are not a representative for any manufacturer,so you should not comment on things of which you
have absolutely no knowledge of,period!
I am not about to get into a confrontation with you like Brock did, but since I know that you are
behind the phone call I received while I was in Texas, challenging me to race the 12 against you guys
Busa's, you have pissed me off!!!!!!
You were also at the track Friday night talking trash about me,(which you do at every available
opportunity) being scared to race you top end with the ZX-12.
I will tell you what! LET'S DO IT!!!!!

Meet me this Saturday at Crossroads Powersports at 12 noon with your stock geared GSX1300R, at
that time we will put it on the dyno to prove that it is stock, so that we can have a fair race of 2
stock motorcycles, and if in fact it puts out stock numbers, then we can hit the Highway were I will
show your eyeabuser what the tail light of the new 12 looks like too.
And Billy when it is all over with, try to be a real man and admit defeat, and do not make any
excuses like,"Aw man, Kawasaki gave Rickey a special hopped up 12", which is the same thing you
said about the ZX-9R last year, which proved not to be true.
Be a man and speak, only when spoken too!!!

P.S. Bring witnesses, I am! "
 
Kawasaki is finally here and there is finally someone to play with. But for now it is still Busa's sandbox.

"Competition improves the Breed"

What are the release dates of ZX12 aftermarket products...........Ha..Ha...
Hayabusa.......... :)

Let the games begin!
 
Suzuki and Kawasaki, the performance companies. This is a classic rivalry...ain't it great?

Honda and Yamaha are bigger in terms of road bike sales, but the two smaller companies are the ones going after it in this ultimate sport category, 1,200cc and up performance machines. I'm torn, because despite all the trash talk from the loyalists for each maker, these companies both build some fine machines.

This is a classic rivalry. Celtics-Lakers, Steelers-Cowboys, Ali-Frasier, Suzuki-Kawasaki. In 1999, Kawasaki got knocked the f*** out! Who is gonna open up the next can of whoop-a-s-s? I can't wait to see it.
 
Rickey G. at www.dragbike.com just confirmed that his ZX-12 dyno'd at 161.8 HP at the wheel. This is obviously without Ram Air. The weight has been confirmed by Kawasaki at 476 lbs dry. Therefore the ZX-12 is a couple lbs heavier than the BUSA with a couple more HP. Without Torque curves and Ram Air comparisons it will be difficult to compare the bikes, but it really looks like any competitions between the ZX-12 and the BUSA will come down to the rider for most of us. The next important characteristic is which one is more rider friendly (confidence inspiring). The Busa has a pretty good reputation for inspiring confidence. We will have to wait and see if the ZX-12 requires a space shuttle pilot to run the thing or not. That will most likely be the biggest difference between the bikes for street performance.

Apparently it was also confirmed that Rickey G. raced a BUSA unofficially on approx. 1/4 mile of highway and was 2-3 bikes lengths ahead of the guy at the end of the quarter. The problem with this however is we don't know the skill level of the Busa rider and the weight of the driver. But it is a start.
 
It sounds like the BUSA rider was lighter than Rickey and was accustomed to runnning 9's with his Busa. So it looks like the riders were equally matched.
 
Turbo,
I have watched ricky's racing career for a while, He does hold the world's record on a Zx9 in the quarter \on a factory bike.
Should be a good race !
HEHE
 
i think ricky gadson stuck his foot in his mouth this time.

i read all that stuff on dragbike.com, and it looks like he's calling alot people out on this. he talked about riding his, i mean racing his zx-12 on the street against a couple of busa's, and walking away from them in all aspects. does he as a corporate roll model really think that we are supposed believe that kawasaki would give him a showroom 12? hell no they wouldn't! this is the bike and the guy that will suppose be the one that sets the standard for the zx-12's with all the magazine reports. if you were into sales, would you let your product go out there as the underdog? as soon as the reports come out on the 12, you'll then hear about the upgrades for the 2000 busa. thats how sales/industry work. also suzuki wont let there upgrades out now because it will hurt the sales of the remaining 99's.
you can look for the 2000 busa's to have a little more s-h-i-t next year over this year.
the main thing to always remember is, these zx-12's are coming out pretty close to being max'ed out. the busa has probably the most room in thier busa motor than they have ever built in any of thier bikes. if you never get board with the showroom type bike, then play the game. but if you like taking your bike to the next stage a little at a time then you better stay with the busa boy's.
it just makes me laugh ever time i see someone showing some concern over the zx-12.
read the motor specs, it speaks for it's self......frank
 
This is crap. Here you have a prof. race driver against an amateur on the street (1/4 I guess) in his speciality. Some big feat of skill.

Wonder what would happen when Ricki and his Kawa had to make a few turns. You know, the only turn on a drag strip is at the end of the run.

Let's see how he does in the real world. God help him if he would try that on a road course.
 
Apparently it was a roll on start, so launch technique did not come into play. Just twist and shift. It is hard to ignore the extra 100cc's though. I was watching NHRA bike drags today and I didn't see one non-GSXR based bike. What happened to the ZX-11 based bikes? Are they still around?
 
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