2024 Presidential Debate

I prefer neither although I can tolerate muttering better than evil. I don't watch politically slanted news. It's choreographed and phony. I've told you that so many times, it's utterly ridiculous.
The results of the policies speak for themselves... consider unemployment, fuel prices, inflation caused by excessive spending and borrowing and a porous border that people like you seem to approve of. Looks like you got what you wanted with illegal immigration.

The evil ones are in power right now... the results of their lies are obvious to most people these days.
 
The results of the policies speak for themselves... consider unemployment, fuel prices, inflation caused by excessive spending and borrowing and a porous border that people like you seem to approve of. Looks like you got what you wanted with illegal immigration.
The current unemployment rate in this country is about the same as it has been for some time barring the Covid era. Fuel prices? Eh.
Immigration yes is an issue. It says more about the nations the immigrants come from than ours. You’re reaching. I’m not a Biden fan; I just hate the thought of another 4 years of Trump. Regardless of who wins in November, my money is on the people that drive the economy.
I want to live out my retirement in peace.

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Looks like it’ll be a forgetful old man vs a criminal.
As Yakov Smirnoff would say, “What a country!”
 
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If that is what you believe then you must think these 3 county prosecutors and Jack Smith are doing America a great service by charging Trump with crimes where no victim exist. Speaking of moral integrity... did you approve of the Ukrainian prosecutor being fired for investigating Hunter while the billion dollar loan to Ukraine from the USA hung in the balance under Biden's control?
Trump literally told Hannity on Fox news all he has to do is "think about it" and it's declassified, then he is caught on tape saying and I quote "I could have declassified this, but I didn't" as he shows uncleared interns military plans to invade another country. I hope Jake Smith locks his ass up, the evidence is overwhelming. It will be the easiest case yet.
 
consider unemployment
It's never been lower, what exactly is your point? Are you for Biden now?
fuel prices
Yup, they are up, as they always are. I remember filling up my GSXR 600 for under a buck back when Clinton was Pres. Guess what, gas has and will always go up under both dem and rep presidents. You and I can't do anything about it. Remember when Bush was president, the republicans said on national television "The president can't affect gas prices".

inflation caused by excessive spending
Not what causes inflation, econmics 101, supply vs. demand. Supply killed by a pandemic.

For somebody that has lived a hot minute you don't know $hiiiiitttt.
 
where no victim exist.
Just so you know, for me personally, I didn't really care about this trial and the crimes within mainly because I see them as quite weak compared to the trials that are to come. If Trump wants to pay off a porn star to shut her up and try to hide the transactions in his business, whatever. I would argue it's not a victimless crime but again I really didn't care about this trial that much and I actually didn't think they would find him guilty either. Sending fake electors to the capital (caught on video), the phone call to Atlanta, his classification mind powers. I want him to pay for that $h1t 100%. I know...it's a witch hunt, he's treated so unfairly. blah blah blah, don't you get tired of hearing this dumb A$$$$ $sh111ttt
 
Trump literally told Hannity on Fox news all he has to do is "think about it" and it's declassified, then he is caught on tape saying and I quote "I could have declassified this, but I didn't" as he shows uncleared interns military plans to invade another country. I hope Jake Smith locks his ass up, the evidence is overwhelming. It will be the easiest case yet.
Don't be so naive about what Trump said to Hannity... you took it literally... quite gullible, aren't we?

You say Jack Smith has an easy case? lol ! Seems he can't have his way with the judge like Bragg is.

No president in history has had law fare like this one. The reason is obvious... he disrupts the pay to play system that has been scamming tax payers forever. The list is endless for all the political graft that has taken place and will continue until we have somebody in charge that can get an honest and hard working AG to put down the corruption and thievery taking place now.

How much more money for Ukraine? SCAM... just like all the other wars until you get back to the Civil War.

Pretty sad that you as an American don't think a United States judicial systems wellness is important. The current puppet in the WH is violating all kinds of laws right now.... his oath means nothing to him otherwise a lot of things like the border crisis would not be happening.
 
Perhaps the most telling to me is the statement Trump made about John McCain. "I like people who weren't captured". It's a window into the mind of a sick person. It alludes me how people support him anyway. A great hate of liberals and liberal policies I can wrap my mind around, but how about lining up behind someone else?
It's a mystery.
 
Don't be so naive about what Trump said to Hannity... you took it literally... quite gullible, aren't we?
I should know better, there is no convincing the cool aid drinkers. Oh he was just joking....Oh he didn't mean it literally it just goes on and on. You sir are the gullible one, convincing yourself of anything you need to, to be ok with Trump.
You say Jack Smith has an easy case? lol ! Seems he can't have his way with the judge like Bragg is.
If it goes to court, the evidence, which you will never see on all your extreme right conspiracy sites is shocking TBH. But again, you will make excuses, oh, they weren't being serious it was just a joke...don't take him literally...please.
How much more money for Ukraine?
It's not for Ukraine!!! It's for us, you think we are sending them pallets of cash?? Talk about gullible.....we are sending them crap we already have and the money is being pumped back into our economy to resupply are own stock piles of weapons, the actual rebuilding of our military. Let's just say we sent them money? WTF are they going to do with it? Send it back to us? Who else are they going to buy supplies from? You really showed us the lack of brain cells rattling around in your head.
Pretty sad that you as an American don't think a United States judicial systems wellness is important. The current puppet in the WH is violating all kinds of laws right now.... his oath means nothing to him otherwise a lot of things like the border crisis would not be happening.
Again, the way to fix the border crisis isn't to build a wall or charge them as criminal's so we can separate family's like Trump did which just creates another crisis. Anything we do at the border is a band-aid. Like the war on drugs. Fix the problem at the source, remove the demand and the problem will go away almost overnight. Now, how to do that. IDK but Trump wasn't going to fix it. Bottom line is, most of the people coming from the south are leaving horrific situations. That's why they are coming here. That is what needs to be fixed.
 
Perhaps the most telling to me is the statement Trump made about John McCain. "I like people who weren't captured".
Exactly! There is just a bottomless pit of these comments. The hate for the left is so strong, they just keep making excuses. How about when he made fun of the reporter, he didn't like that is crippled. I mean WTF.
 
Perhaps the most telling to me is the statement Trump made about John McCain. "I like people who weren't captured". It's a window into the mind of a sick person. It alludes me how people support him anyway. A great hate of liberals and liberal policies I can wrap my mind around, but how about lining up behind someone else?
It's a mystery.
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Very very stupit yhing to say. I know of the cuff I have said stupid thing myself. Have you? I know that you are not at all stupid.
 
Don't be so naive about what Trump said to Hannity... you took it literally... quite gullible, aren't we?
Remember when Trump said "She shouldn't be allowed to run, if she were to win this election, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt." I guess I should have not taken that seriously either, clearly now that he is on the other end of that stick it was just a joke, right?
 
Perhaps the most telling to me is the statement Trump made about John McCain. "I like people who weren't captured". It's a window into the mind of a sick person. It alludes me how people support him anyway. A great hate of liberals and liberal policies I can wrap my mind around, but how about lining up behind someone else?
It's a mystery.
I don't send money to any political party or person. This Orwellian scripted fiasco we are witnessing today is nothing more than a power grab by those with a bad thirst to run the world. The only thing that is real is we have evil people manipulating anything they can to destroy this country, trash the dollar, and take away as many choices as possible to make your life a one size fits all system of control.

Where did the phrase "You will own nothing and be happy" come from? Have you seen how many new rental units being built? I have here in Socal... The rise in mortgage rates is designed to further impoverish new property owners in my opinion. Property rights are one of the cornerstones of a self governing population. When you can no longer afford to own property and have to rent you become a subject unless you did it by free choice because you knew you might be moving sooner than later.

Who cares what Trump said about McCain? I don't because the only thing that matters is policies that sustain this countries power and position in the world. If we had a DOJ and FBI that wasn't a tool the evil ones we wouldn't be in this mess we find ourselves in right now.
 
We are getting closer to the same kind of tipping point the world experienced in 2008. Can I prove it? No... Why not? Because it has't happened yet. Human nature hasn't changed for those at the top of the financial pyramid because they got away with it last time with a few exceptions. Those that did paid big fines in the billions ( big banks and investment houses ) and had their cases sealed so you would never see their crimes.

One of the bigger reasons Trump won in 2016 had to do with people being fed up with the "system" that allowed trillions in financial losses around the world while about 30 million people lost their jobs and millions lost their homes and the equity they had accumulated.

 
“Can I prove it, no”. Much like every other alarmist far right winger.

That should be a sign in your front yard and a tattoo on your forehead.
Watch the video and tell me who the alarmist was. A prime whistle blower in a high financial position that saw what was happening started looking under his hood and under his car before going to work.

I don't understand why you like to attack me so often. I am just the messenger... plus, I watch the real estate industry a bit closer than the average guy or gal because my wife and I are in the business.

Why can't I prove it ? because this crash will be orchestrated in a much different way that it was last time. In fact, it well under way right now. I believe we are close to the point that it could happen anytime. My choice of time to bail out and sell the house before the 08 crash was in August of 2005. Why did I think it was time to bail? Because the values were rising at an unsustainable rate and the interest rates were being pushed down to artificially low rates. 1st house my interest rate in 1998 was 6.5%. When I bought my 2nd house in 2003 the rate was 3.125%.

See if you can figure out what the difference is and how it affects home values. The bubble started in 2001 that ended in 2008. The guy that bought my 1st house in 2003 sold it 8 months later. His average daily equity increase was $237 a day 7 days a week until he sold it 8 month later.

Got any other silly ideas you think I should do?
 
Watch the video and tell me who the alarmist was. A prime whistle blower in a high financial position that saw what was happening started looking under his hood and under his car before going to work.

I don't understand why you like to attack me so often. I am just the messenger... plus, I watch the real estate industry a bit closer than the average guy or gal because my wife and I are in the business.

Why can't I prove it ? because this crash will be orchestrated in a much different way that it was last time. In fact, it well under way right now. I believe we are close to the point that it could happen anytime. My choice of time to bail out and sell the house before the 08 crash was in August of 2005. Why did I think it was time to bail? Because the values were rising at an unsustainable rate and the interest rates were being pushed down to artificially low rates. 1st house my interest rate in 1998 was 6.5%. When I bought my 2nd house in 2003 the rate was 3.125%.

See if you can figure out what the difference is and how it affects home values. The bubble started in 2001 that ended in 2008. The guy that bought my 1st house in 2003 sold it 8 months later. His average daily equity increase was $237 a day 7 days a week until he sold it 8 month later.

Got any other silly ideas you think I should do?
Speaking of real estate.......I certainly don't know where it is going from here.....houses and housing are almost out of reach for the average person and homelessness is growing as a result.....

I remember looking at a piece of property 10 yrs ago that has recently come back onto the market for more than 4 times the asking price of 10 yrs ago, houses seem to rising a little slower though but still at least double the price of 10 yrs ago.

How are these numbers being driven up...it is the greed of the seller mixed with the greed of the real estate companies?
 
Speaking of real estate.......I certainly don't know where it is going from here.....houses and housing are almost out of reach for the average person and homelessness is growing as a result.....

I remember looking at a piece of property 10 yrs ago that has recently come back onto the market for more than 4 times the asking price of 10 yrs ago, houses seem to rising a little slower though but still at least double the price of 10 yrs ago.

How are these numbers being driven up...it is the greed of the seller mixed with the greed of the real estate companies?
The market forces are a complex mix of greed combined with supply and demand. The banking system is based in a debt based system is doomed to failure by its very design. When the question is asked, where does the interest money come from that pays down principle and the INTEREST.... where does that money come from? Its like a game of musical chairs as a simple example... when the music stops... aka... the payment is due... the debt has to be serviced and that means an expansion of the money supply has to expand. The more money that is loaned out the more money that must be repaid including the interest on the principle. A debt based system once launched into existence must grow or it will die. ( no wonder we have inflation ) This is just one of the reasons why the world wide money supply continues to grow... as America continues to print money and inject it into the debt based system then other countries must also do the same to keep pace with inflation. Add to that, we have what is called "fractional reserve banking" or loan creation with minimal reserves. The standard use to be 10%.... at some institutions the reserve factor of 10% has been completely eliminated and not required as a rule for lending. Also keep in mind a promissory note for a loan when signed by an entity whether its a person or a corporation goes from the liability side of a banks ledger to the asset side of the ledger when the loan is funded. How's that for making money from of a signature that represents a promise to repay the debt? Money loaned out by banks reminds me of popcorn seeds being cooked at a movie theatre... the popcorn explodes and grows and purges out of the machine.... the same happens with loans when you have a 10% reserve factor... it can grow exponentially. This is what was happening before the 08 crash... NINJA LOANS... No Income no Job Loans.... or stated income loans that were originated in a fraudulent manner based on lies by those obtaining them were being made at unsustainable levels. These loans were bundled up as securities and sold all over the world... that is why the 08 collapse affected the whole world.... toxic debt was sold to anyone that wanted high paying returns on what appeared to be low risk securities that were actually ticking time bombs because those loans could not be repaid by the liars that borrowed the money.

I know of one local property that went parabolic during this time. It was 1 acre of commercial / residential that had a run down house on it. A guy I knew bought it for 135K in 1997 and fixed it up. By 2003 he sold it for 289K.... the value continued to rise up until the crash and it was hovering around a million in part because it had dual use zoning. In 10 years it went up about 7 to 800%... My wife and I had considered buying it at one time but it was out of our reach.

Back to banking... the creation of the Federal Reserve by 7 of the wealthiest men in the world represented about 25% of the world's net worth. The details are in the book titled "The Creature from Jekell Island" by G Edward Griffin. By creating the Federal Reserve Act and launching a debt based system we were on a one way path to a failed banking system. Glen Beck and G Edward Griffin present a history lesson on the FED.
Griffin's book was released in 1994.... it sold a few copies back then... however... after the 08 collapse it gained in sales due to the fact people wanted to know why and how we got to a world wide debt crisis where the FED appeared to be a big part of it.

 
The market forces are a complex mix of greed combined with supply and demand. The banking system is based in a debt based system is doomed to failure by its very design. When the question is asked, where does the interest money come from that pays down principle and the INTEREST.... where does that money come from? Its like a game of musical chairs as a simple example... when the music stops... aka... the payment is due... the debt has to be serviced and that means an expansion of the money supply has to expand. The more money that is loaned out the more money that must be repaid including the interest on the principle. A debt based system once launched into existence must grow or it will die. ( no wonder we have inflation ) This is just one of the reasons why the world wide money supply continues to grow... as America continues to print money and inject it into the debt based system then other countries must also do the same to keep pace with inflation. Add to that, we have what is called "fractional reserve banking" or loan creation with minimal reserves. The standard use to be 10%.... at some institutions the reserve factor of 10% has been completely eliminated and not required as a rule for lending. Also keep in mind a promissory note for a loan when signed by an entity whether its a person or a corporation goes from the liability side of a banks ledger to the asset side of the ledger when the loan is funded. How's that for making money from of a signature that represents a promise to repay the debt? Money loaned out by banks reminds me of popcorn seeds being cooked at a movie theatre... the popcorn explodes and grows and purges out of the machine.... the same happens with loans when you have a 10% reserve factor... it can grow exponentially. This is what was happening before the 08 crash... NINJA LOANS... No Income no Job Loans.... or stated income loans that were originated in a fraudulent manner based on lies by those obtaining them were being made at unsustainable levels. These loans were bundled up as securities and sold all over the world... that is why the 08 collapse affected the whole world.... toxic debt was sold to anyone that wanted high paying returns on what appeared to be low risk securities that were actually ticking time bombs because those loans could not be repaid by the liars that borrowed the money.

I know of one local property that went parabolic during this time. It was 1 acre of commercial / residential that had a run down house on it. A guy I knew bought it for 135K in 1997 and fixed it up. By 2003 he sold it for 289K.... the value continued to rise up until the crash and it was hovering around a million in part because it had dual use zoning. In 10 years it went up about 7 to 800%... My wife and I had considered buying it at one time but it was out of our reach.

Back to banking... the creation of the Federal Reserve by 7 of the wealthiest men in the world represented about 25% of the world's net worth. The details are in the book titled "The Creature from Jekell Island" by G Edward Griffin. By creating the Federal Reserve Act and launching a debt based system we were on a one way path to a failed banking system. Glen Beck and G Edward Griffin present a history lesson on the FED.
Griffin's book was released in 1994.... it sold a few copies back then... however... after the 08 collapse it gained in sales due to the fact people wanted to know why and how we got to a world wide debt crisis where the FED appeared to be a big part of it.

One of my former colleagues took advantage of the housing crash and bought a house in Coral Bay Fla for peanuts.....it was in a gated community where over half the houses were abandoned with the keys left in the mail box.....it's a seriously nice house but the grass was knee deep and everything was neglected.

However, housing is now so far out of reach that many young people have resigned to the fact they will never own a house in their lifetime. The housing market is completely out of hand and I figure it is on it's way to a large crash at some point when the elderly home owners start to pass away leaving homes behind to their families who will try to maximize their value in order to glean a cash-cow,
 
One of the not so obvious rules for short sales in the years following the 08 crash was a rule that said all short sale transaction must be an arms length transaction. What does arms length mean? It means your rich relative or friend can't buy your house cheap at a short sale price from the mortgage company and sell it back to you in any way shape or form. No contract for deed, no lease or rental terms, no gifting the house back to the "about to be foreclosed on" property owners that fell behind with their house payments. If this were to happen it would have been like getting a 40 to 60% principle discount on the house ( depending on how long you owned it ) that was about to be foreclosed upon if it were not for the short sale agreement made by the mortgage company. By not allowing a family member of friend to bail out a property owned by the current homeowner that had fallen behind on payments "they knew", the mortgage company or bank ( because they were privy and had to approve all short sale transactions and knew the details regarding the new buyer ) had the ability to separate the home buyer from the house they were living in. In other words, you , the home owner behind on payments, are moving out and the property and it will now be owned by somebody else that bought it cheap that you don't know. This meant as property values rise again and equity is gained by the new owner then the past owner will miss out on the gain in equity. That is exactly how it went down for me. My foreclosure in 2011 cost me well over 400K when you calculate the net loss on the house and the rent paid since that time. The new buyer ( investor ) paid 150K on the courthouse steps and put in new paint and carpet. Several months later they sold it for 207K. Now its inflated value is in the 550K range. Those new buyers at 207K in 2012 are still living in that house and timed the market perfectly. All I can say is congratulations to the new owners! The got a nice house with lots of upgrades that we ordered when we bought the house brand new in 2003. They took a chance and it paid off nicely. I am happy for them because they positioned themselves and acted at the perfect time. The perfect time in most markets was from 2009 through 2013.

One more change in mortgage bank short sale policy happened a year or so later. The banks started doing principle reductions for home owners that had fallen behind as they cleared out the remaining inventory they still had not short sailed or foreclosed on. Too bad that policy change didn't happen in time for us to refinance that home. I would really appreciate a home for 150K at 3% interest these days. My rent is now $2730 a month which isn't to bad considering what rent increases in Socal have happened here since the covid spike.

If real unemployment rates spike up again then new opportunities to buy homes at a reduced price are likely to happen. It's a waiting game. I wouldn't buy a house right now unless I could pay it off.
 
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