i thought i did, but i didnt wanna hate myself it was just looking cool but couldnt be ridden, no trailer queen for me... from the info you guys gave me, it sounds like i will be able to have fun with it, just have to deal with some scrapes, i figure i could play with the height and find that happy medium....as far as limiting factor, i can live with that. i soon plan to pick up a 1k or 750(b4 nxt season) i can do with out dragging knee for one year, like i said my back is pretty bad now, so hopefully the lowered and long bike will keep me taimed