9.34 in the ¼ and it’s not a busa

[lowlypawn]

http://www.dontbescaredracing.com/video/zx10r_nj.wmv

Don’t know if you guys saw this or not but it’s pretty damn impressive.

A zx10 with a pipe, geared and strapped doing some sick ¼ mile times.  Might even be faster then a busa with the same mods dare I say

I think the if any bike could be a “busa killerâ€￾ the zx10 is the closest thing yet.

Better on the track
Maybe better on the ¼
Top speed? probably still the busa


Well at least the busa still has a lock on the comfort category

 

[Krieg]

I will give the rider on the vid his due because he has his launch technique down very well and that is where he is making this time.

Better on the track? Depends on rider ability, but maybe.

Better in 1/4? Depends on adjusted altitude which takes into account known altitude, barometric pressure and temperature as well as rider ability. Doubtfull the zx10 would win. Not to mention the fact that the Busa's titles are based on "production motorcycle" so as soon as the mods begin to give the zx10 a chance, it really has already lost.

Top Speed? zx10 doesn't even have a chance. Once again lets talk about how the marks are set. "Production Motorcycle" being the key. I also know for a fact that Kaw isn't going to produce a litre bike to kill its own zx12 so let the wet dreams continue.

Comfort and rideability? Definately the Busa.

Good looks? Definately the Busa.

Production platform to build from? Definately the Busa as it can go way further than the zx10 with mods.

Reliability? Once again definately the Busa as Suzuki bikes have won more endurance championships than ANY other make of motorcycle. I have drag raced Kaw motors and they are consistently less powerfull and definately built weaker than Suzuki motors. Lets give this rider a season to run these times and then ask him "WHAT DID YOU BREAK"? It's going to be a long list.

Not having to throw a leg over a CRAPASAKI? Priceless

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[UR IT!]

I will give the rider on the vid his due because he has his launch technique down very well and that is where he is making this time.

Better on the track? Depends on rider ability, but maybe.

Better in 1/4? Depends on adjusted altitude which takes into account known altitude, barometric pressure and temperature as well as rider ability. Doubtfull the zx10 would win. Not to mention the fact that the Busa's titles are based on "production motorcycle" so as soon as the mods begin to give the zx10 a chance, it really has already lost.

Top Speed? zx10 doesn't even have a chance. Once again lets talk about how the marks are set. "Production Motorcycle" being the key. I also know for a fact that Kaw isn't going to produce a litre bike to kill its own zx12 so let the wet dreams continue.

Comfort and rideability? Definately the Busa.

Good looks? Definately the Busa.

Production platform to build from? Definately the Busa as it can go way further than the zx10 with mods.

Reliability? Once again definately the Busa as Suzuki bikes have won more endurance championships than ANY other make of motorcycle.

Not having to throw a leg over a CRAPASAKI? Priceless

 

[monsterspeedfreak]

That dude is some famous drag racer (can't remember his name)
Not many racers even come close I hear though!!!!

 

[gsteve]

I think you under estimate teh new crop of 1000s. The 10 in stock form di 186 in several tests. The give the bus all and more than it can handle.

 

[Krieg]

Hell yeah MSF. You can tell he has done it before a few times. Rider ability plays a BIG part of any style of racing. Put young jimmy hot sack in the seat and I will bet you dollars to doughnuts he wouldn't even come close. Also worth noting is the closed track and solo passes which would play a role in extreemely low times.

How many slow passes did he have to make to get the 5 good ones I wonder.

 

[Krieg]

I think you under estimate teh new crop of 1000s.  The 10 in stock form di 186 in several tests.  The give the bus all and more than it can handle.

Uh... what is your point?

Will that make it the new fastest production motorcycle as the origional post implied? No because it wont go production beyond the 186 limit if it can even get there. And once the mods start the Busa will stomp it.

Will that make it the new production 1/4 king? No because 95%, if not more, of the riders of a zx10 will never duplicate the passes shown without years of practice. If you think you will go out your first weekend and do this on your new zx10 your fooling yourself.

 

[monsterspeedfreak]

I think you under estimate teh new crop of 1000s.  The 10 in stock form di 186 in several tests.  The give the bus all and more than it can handle.

Uh... what is your point?

Will that make it the new fastest production motorcycle as the origional post implied? No because it wont go production beyond the 186 limit if it can even get there. And once the mods start the Busa will stomp it.

Will that make it the new production 1/4 king? No because 95%, if not more, of the riders of a zx10 will never duplicate the passes shown without years of practice. If you think you will go out your first weekend and do this on your new zx10 your fooling yourself.

100% for sure.....dreaming if ya think yer gonna pull times like that without boatloads of experiance.

 

[rob t]

wonder what that guy could do on the busa set up the same way?

 

[phatjoe]

yeah that rider is 1 of the best around i cant remember his name but a few dudes in jacksonville were talkin about this vid last week and wish they had 1/4 skill he has to launchin

 

[BLU88]

HE IS HAWLIN ASS..

 

[gsteve]

My point is the new bikes in every day riding are just as quick as the busa. They have the same hp and weigh 100 lbs less. I hoped it was all hype too , but its not. I ride with a 04 r1 , we both have the same mileage , we are both stock. He weighs 50 lbs less than me. Doesnt matter what rpm or gear we start in , he leads me.

 

[NearDeath]

My point is the new bikes in every day riding are just as quick as the busa.  They have the same hp and weigh 100 lbs less.  I hoped it was all hype too , but its not.   I ride with a 04 r1 , we both have the same mileage , we are both stock.  He weighs 50 lbs less than me.  Doesnt matter what rpm or gear we start in , he leads me.

Nobody is trying to dog you here dude... but, we have already seen all of the numbers on all of the bikes in almost every magazine and many from this board have already been out there testing the new liter bikes... MSF, you have a 10r, which you just got this spring if I remember correctly...

Let me tell YOU what the point is... Just because your buddy is a better rider then you are doesn't mean that the R1 is any faster then the Busa, etc...

Anyone with any experience will tell you that at the times any of these new liter bikes can produce (Busa, 12r included), it really comes down to the rider and it sounds like you  need some more seat time...  

I am not even going to address your HP vs. weight numbers... If peak HP is all you are looking for, maybe you are better off with the 10r, otherwise, do some research on this site and you may find there is more to it then just weight and HP... (try torque, wheelbase, areos, and HP throughout the RPM curve for starters...)
Cloud



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[Krieg]

My point is the new bikes in every day riding are just as quick as the busa.  They have the same hp and weigh 100 lbs less.  I hoped it was all hype too , but its not.   I ride with a 04 r1 , we both have the same mileage , we are both stock.  He weighs 50 lbs less than me.  Doesnt matter what rpm or gear we start in , he leads me.

Nobody is trying to dog you here dude... but, we have already seen all of the numbers on all of the bikes in almost every magazine and many from this board have already been out there testing the new liter bikes... MSF, you have a 10r, which you just got this spring if I remember correctly...

Let me tell YOU what the point is... Just because your buddy is a better rider then you are doesn't mean that the R1 is any faster then the Busa, etc...

Anyone with any experience will tell you that at the times any of these new liter bikes can produce (Busa, 12r included), it really comes down to the rider and it sounds like you  need some more seat time...  

I am not even going to address your HP vs. weight numbers... If peak HP is all you are looking for, maybe you are better off with the 10r, otherwise, do some research on this site and you may find there is more to it then just weight and HP... (try torque, wheelbase, areos, and HP throughout the RPM curve for starters...)
Cloud

Amen Cloud.

I will also add one other thing. I recently watched a discovery show where the Busa was voted "the #1 motorcycle of all time". If you think any liter bike will ever chalange that you are unfortunately wrong because the Hayabusa name is already highest on the wall and is there to stay. That is why the Hayabusa is such a tremendously dominating motorcycle. It is fastest, quickest and most importantly ACTUALLY RIDEABLE for more than an hour at a time. The origional poster jeered at the comfort title which to me shows his inexperience because after the "NEW" wears off you actually want to ride one of these bikes rather than brag on it to your buddies and then beg off on the weekend ride because your back/wrists/knees/neck hurt. Best of all time is way beyond I got you with a pro rider by 1/10th after mods. IMHO



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[lowlypawn]

I will give the rider on the vid his due because he has his launch technique down very well and that is where he is making this time.[/QUOTE]

Ok we all agree the rider has some skillz. So what Get that same guy on a busa with similar mods and see what he runs. You think he could beat 9.34 with a busa? on the same track etc. I think the busa’s extra weight would hold it back. Most new sport bikes have such incredible performance most riders don’t have the skills really push em to the limit so lest just compare the bikes assuming the same very skilled rider is at the helm.

Better on the track? Depends on rider ability, but maybe. [/QUOTE]

You got to be kidding me. Most 600 are better at the track then a busa let alone the 1000s.  


Top Speed? zx10 doesn't even have a chance. Once again lets talk about how the marks are set. "Production Motorcycle" being the key. I also know for a fact that Kaw isn't going to produce a litre bike to kill its own zx12 so let the wet dreams continue.

[/QUOTE]

The zx10 having a higher top speed would not kill the zx12. Their aimed at slightly different markets. The zx12 is more of a touring / commuting real world use kind of bike, a lot like the busa where the zx10 is pure no holds bar performance. Top speed is all about HP vs wind resistance and I think the stock zx10 is actually putting out a little more HP then a stock busa. With mods the busa has way more potential for top speed I would say. Those turbo busas are just incredible.

Comfort and rideability? Definately the Busa.[/QUOTE]
Agreed

Good looks? Definately the Busa.[/QUOTE]

I like the looks of a busa but many people think they are just fugly so that’s definitely debatable.




Reliability? Once again definately the Busa as Suzuki bikes have won more endurance championships than ANY other make of motorcycle. I have drag raced Kaw motors and they are consistently less powerfull and definately built weaker than Suzuki motors. Lets give this rider a season to run these times and then ask him "WHAT DID YOU BREAK"? It's going to be a long list.

[/QUOTE]

Suzuki dose seem to be the preferred motor in drag racing. So if mods (like a turbo) are in your future the busa is a safe choice. Both bikes left mostly stock I would say reliability is even.

Not having to throw a leg over a CRAPASAKI?[/QUOTE]

I thought it was Kawasucky Do I sense a little bias?

 

[Krieg]

Not having to throw a leg over a CRAPASAKI?

I thought it was Kawasucky Do I sense a little bias?[/QUOTE]
Probally a location venacular.

Bias? No, like I said I have raced both and that is where I am getting my opinion.

 

[gsteve]

Cloud.... Im sorry the truth bugs you so much. I have a BUSA not a 10. I never said any of the 1000s would out do a 1300 in top speed. We have switched riders among the 3 of us and the results are alwasy the same. The r1 is right there all the way from 50 to 150. I imagine the 10 would be similar.

 

[lowlypawn]

Not having to throw a leg over a CRAPASAKI?

I thought it was Kawasucky Do I sense a little bias?

Probally a location venacular.

Bias? No, like I said I have raced both and that is where I am getting my opinion.[/QUOTE]
That last one was a joke. I just forgot the smilies.

 

[Revlis]

Rode for a Ways this morning with an 04 R1, 04 ZX10, a Bandit 12s and a stack of Busa's. The ZX10 Really is a sweet bike, I dunno nor care which bike is fastest among them cause unless we are talking tight twisties there really isn't anything the ZX10 or the R1 can do that the Busa cannot. It's all about the rider on these things, the differences in performance are that minimal, unless them twisties are tight.

1st section this morning Raider and I were out front by a fair bit with the R-1 the ZX10 towards the rear. But this had everything to do with riders desires, nothing to do with the bikes. Later in the day the Joker's friend on the R1 was off like a shot! I mean fuggin gone, was I pushing hard? No, first time I have been up there so He could have been on an SV650 and still would have been in front... My Point is, out in the real world, it's all going to come down to the rider, their mood, their intentions that day and certainly a riders skill... or sense of self preservation

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The Bikes are all close enough that their differences really are not going to be the deciding factor, it is all going to come down the the rider...

 

[busabrother]

DIdnt look at the vid, but I think it is probably Norman JAckson. ANd he can launch like that on any bike. I attended Jason Millers drag racing school last year when I still had my 94 gsxr 1100. It was stock, except for 4 inch stretch and slammed. I could only get it to 11.7. HIs first and only pass on MY bike was a 10.3! He is a beast on any bike. He used to run the 12 but now the ten is out. Thats his new thing!! Very cool guy as well, but remember he could hand a lot of peoloe their ass on a 750 or a 9. BUt thats what he gets PAID to do.