I can only tell you MY experience...bone stock on dyno:157 hp torque:89 lbs........with Full Muzzy and PC III...168 hp torque:99 lbs.....measured @ 4600 feet elevation. The dyno guy said there would be bigger numbers at sea level but others say no, I just know it was a different motorcycle with the PC III! Doyle (ps before the PC III, I had the Muzzy on...untuned for four days...it was louder and more fun but NOT faster)