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(Charlesbusa @ May 18 2007,14:59) What was the subject of this thread again
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I don`t remember, someone got pissy about another idiots making something to themself.
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if you folks get any deeper into this shid?...your heads are gonna pop outcher azzholes!
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and yes..you may quote me!
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L8R, Bill.
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PS: you only...."think"....i didn't add anything constructive here!
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(JINKSTER @ May 18 2007,20:51) if you folks get any deeper into this shid?...your heads are gonna pop outcher azzholes!
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and yes..you may quote me!
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So quoted.
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Anyway, time for me to put a quarter on the train tracks.
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I don't suspect any of you have heard of it, but there was an Anime that was made about 10 years ago, which featured as it's main character, a teenage martial artist, who after being dragged to china by his father for "training", fell into a cursed spring, and now, every time he gets splashed with cold water, he becomes a she. (And hot water, of course, reverses it). Since it is a comedy, much hilarity then ensues.

My reason for mentioning this? I want his 'curse'.
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I'm now donning my fire-retardant suit.
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(TheAtomicAss @ May 19 2007,01:26) every time he gets splashed with cold water, he becomes a she. (And hot water, of course, reverses it). Since it is a comedy, much hilarity then ensues.

My reason for mentioning this? I want his 'curse'.
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I'm now donning my fire-retardant suit.
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he he..... dreams dreams.

What else did you dreamed about?
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(Vic_E55_2001 @ May 19 2007,03:35) he he..... dreams dreams.

What else did you dreamed about?
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Yeah, it is just a dream, for now.
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But when I get up some money I'm taking a cruise to china. No joke, dead serious.
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As for other dreams, well, I'm going to rule the world someday.
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Has anyone else seen the South Park episode "Mr. Garrison's Fancy New V@gin@"? Seems appropriate to mention it here...
 
(DAB @ May 17 2007,22:09) So, WWJD, do you feel the same way about homosexuals
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Let's refer to the good book for this one, shall we...

the DICTIONARY!

pe·do·phile
an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.
- CURRENTLY illegal in the United states

bes·ti·al·i·ty
4. sexual relations between a person and an animal; sodomy.
- generally recognized as illegal, but very gray area laws

fecophilia, involving sexual pleasure through human feces
- recognized as a "Psycologocial condition", laws surrounding this are unknown

sod·om·y
1. Anal copulation of one male with another.
- this USED to be listed in the dictionary as "illegal". That has been changed.

nec·ro·phil·ia
: obsession with and usually erotic interest in or stimulation by corpses
- I have no clue about laws here.... do we really need them?

mar·riage
1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law
- legal but is NOW including same sex references

And finally....

ho·mo·sex·u·al
1 : tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex

All these words are defined by our society to represent something. Usually they mean ONE thing, and ONE THING only. Blue can not mean "Blue, and oh yeah, Yellowish too". That is back to being silly. Can meanings change over time? Yes. Is that a good thing? Usually not. When bad words become good, we have lost all ability to define "GOOD" and "BAD" anymore. When Ill, Sick, Garbage mean something good, we've turned BAD things >>into>> GOOD thins and there is no longer any way to differenciate between Bad and Good. all definition is gone. Make sense?

So, we change words and meanings of things. Rarely, is it for the better. Isn't that strange? I just thought of that. I'm drawing a blank as to when changing/updating words is for the better. Someone find me examples please. Surely, I'm wrong in that.

Anyway, besides "marriage" the rest of the list can be found listed like "Psycologocial condition" - that is until we decide to CHANGE that. Heck, "SODOMY" USED to be defined IN THE DICTIONARY as "The ILLEGAL union".... I don't have detailed info on that, but yes that meant even with the opposite sex. That has changed. I guess people wanted it changed. But if people keep wanting to change everything, GOOD and BAD, or rather RIGHT and WRONG gets blurred and eventually bred out altogether. Much to the chagrin of the pedophiles. Lets look at them for a bit. SEXUAL attraction to children. Homosexuality is also about sexual attraction to something other than the opposite sex. It is NOT about LOVE at all, it is ONLY about sex. The definition of Homosexuality refers to sexual desires not platonic love. I'm male and LOVE my dad, my brother, my male friends, but I am not interested in them sexually. It is completely my conscious choice of how to be interested in someone in that way, male or female. MY CHOICE. Soceity deems certain sexual "INTERESTS", not just actions, but just interests as illegal. Kinda like the thought police huh? Lets throw beastiality into the mix. Again, interest AND action of sex with something other than the opposite sex. Again, a "psychological condition" usually needing some treatment to correct. Are pedophiles, fecophiliacs, beastialiters BORN with that interest? Has science show it is in the DNA genes to be attracted to children or farm animals? How is homosexuality any different? It seems exactly the same to me: an off kilter interest in sexual activity that is NOT between opposite sexes - a "psychological condition", something that used to be termed ILLEGAL by most states.

Elementary biology class explains the differences and the meaning behind being male and female. It is so simple to comprehend, we all recognize it by the age of 2 or something like that. Girl's are icky <> Boys are COOL ;)
Each has unique parts, oddly enough, designed to fit together. That's not to say you can't do more with it - but in the end, they were designed to fit and work very well together.

Interest above and beyond that typical use gets tossed in the "psychological condition" bucket. Generally speaking. Meaning, chances are there is a cog loose someplace but the person might not know it.... interest in children, animals, poop, corpses, fish, Yaks, the number 23, who knows! Most cases require outside intervention of freinds or family to deal with, as well as psychological reprogramming.

"If it walks like a duck..." Homosexuality looks the same to me. If it is NOT about sex, please explain it to me. It is NOT about love - I'm telling you, I DEEPLY LOVE my male friends and family, some to the point of wishing they were around more - but that doesn't make me a homosexual. Love is not mentioned in the definition. So it's just sex again - an off kilter sex - sex with NOT the opposite sex

.... as the simplest of biology classes can easily explain how it works. It's simple. It's obvious. It's universal, even with all the animals all across our globe.

BUT!

We, as smarty pants humans, decide to use our vast knowledge to REDEFINE anything we feel like it. Ever seen that joke about "NEW MATH"?
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yeah... GOOD on us. There's a change for the better, huh?
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MARRIAGE used to have a definition:
"United to a person of the oppostie sex" but we are changing that. I don't see a need. Let same sex partnerships come up with their own new word for that union. OH OH! It just hit me: SODOMAGE! That's great! I just now came up with that! hahahahaha Come on, there's nothing wrong with that. It's PERFECT.
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So, marriage looses it's importance, it's definition... it's VALUE. Why not give it 60 definitions? or 2000? Doesn't matter anymore anyway.

How do I feel about homosexuality? Same way I feel about the rest

Pedophiles - love the person, don't condone the act
Beastialty - love the person, don't condone the act
Fecopheliac - love the person, don't condone the act
Necropheliac - love the person, don't condone the act
Criminally Insane - - love the person, don't condone the act

Homosexual - love the person, don't condone the act

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Society evolved constantly. Not necessary in a bad way.
Example. Sexual relations with underage person is a criminal offense, right? Pedophilia.

For the last 10000 years of human history it was normal. Sexual age for girls was 11-12.
It was changed just recently, no more then 200 years ago.
In some countries even now 16 is legal age for girls.

Same with alcohol. In Russia legal age was 16. Commies changed it to 18.

US raise legal age to 21 in recent history.


Pedophiles, Beastialty, Fecopheliac, Necropheliac, Homosexuality exists forever.
What makes you so angry about it. It is part of the human nature.
Imperfections in human race.

Society became more open, people interested in those abnormalities.
Mass media created enormous amount of information.

Did I know anything about homosexuality when I was 10. Nope, no clue.
I can hug my friends and ride bikes two up without second thought.

Mass media created Homofobics, people like you.

Now you know about them and you scared.
 
Did you REALLY just call me a Homophobic?

Please go back up and read my very last six lines. did you miss something?

Why would I be "scared" of anything? Dude, did you read my post at all?
 
Hmm....I think Ill weigh in as well. You know what it all comes down to? Responsibility. Nobody wants to be responsible for themselves anymore. Theres always a condition, a disease, a drug, a crutch, a substitute to blame for the woes of the world rather than the individuals in it. This has been happening slowly for decades and has sped up dramatically in the last 40 or so years.

Little Johnny got hooked on crack? It musta been his abusive parents.
Little Suzy robbed a bank? It musta been her impoverished childhood.
Little Tommy shot up the neighborhood? Musta been ADHD.


Theres always some reason besides personal responsibility. Dont like your looks? Change em. Dont like your sex? Change it. Dont like your species? Get cat surgery. Dont like the fact you grew up poor? Rob a bank and blame the man. Your coffee burned your lap? Sue the fast food chain.
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And on the abortion/fetus cell issue.......


Everybody is in a hurry to live forever. Dont you know whats waiting for you after this? As for me....Id rather live a few less years. My soul isnt worth prostituting for a few more years on this earth by letting fetus' be used for medical research/cures.

Just my two cents.
 
Who wants to live forever?


He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see
He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity
He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity
Your god is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I'll see you there
He flexed his muscles to keep his flock of sheep in line
He made a virus that would kill off all the swine
His perfect kingdom of killing, suffering and pain
Demands devotion atrocities done in his name
Your god is dead and no one cares
Drowning in his own hypocrisy
And if there is a hell I'll see you there
Burning with your god in humility
Will you die for this?

"Heresy", Nine Inch Nails
 
(WWJD @ May 19 2007,19:10) Did you REALLY just call me a Homophobic?

Please go back up and read my very last six lines. did you miss something?

Why would I be "scared" of anything? Dude, did you read my post at all?
I read it 2 times actually. Sorry, I`m not interested in that topic anymore.
Maybe one day we will get some beer and start this discussion again.
 
(BIGSMOOTHH @ May 19 2007,21:10) WWJD....that was an awesome post. Damn I wish I were more eloquent and crap.
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Thanks man! That means a lot to me in this paranoid, politically correct world. I'm not always on the popular side of the room
 
(DAB @ May 19 2007,21:10) Who wants to live forever?


He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see
He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity
He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity
Your god is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I'll see you there
He flexed his muscles to keep his flock of sheep in line
He made a virus that would kill off all the swine
His perfect kingdom of killing, suffering and pain
Demands devotion atrocities done in his name
Your god is dead and no one cares
Drowning in his own hypocrisy
And if there is a hell I'll see you there
Burning with your god in humility
Will you die for this?

"Heresy", Nine Inch Nails
Trent Reznor is just another "I'll profit from doom and gloom"er. Why should he be listened to about anything? Who has he helped?
 
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