I've gotta bail this board. Too much trashing anything but 'Busa. C'mon guys, more substance and less bull$hit.[/QUOTE]
Yes, giving opinions is a horrible thing. I understand *pats head*
The BMW's are reliable as hell. I can tell stories about many broken bike garage queens with respect to Yammies, Kaw, Harleys, and yes, Suzuki's as one can with BMW's. To suggest BMW's are poorly engineered or always breaking is bullbutter.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure, and I don't think anyone's really said any different. But by far, with the people I know and ride with, the amount of complaints about reliability, surging issues, and general problems are far more prevalent in people who ride or have ridden BMWs than other marks.
Anecdotal? Perhaps, but when people here are coming up with actual reasons as to why they percieve the BMW to be poorl engineered or of questionable design to their own sensibilities, to say their opinions aren't worth listening to simply because you don't agree, well, that's just a load of crap.
Half the Suzuki dealers are $hit. On the side of the road a few weeks ago with a blown rear tire (300 miles on my '05 'Busa) and the closest dealer 30 miles away,they couldn't help get me to their dealership and didn't even have a damn replacement tire. My dealership here in town put me 3 weeks out for the first service 'cause they're too busy doing ATV and Jet Ski crap.[/QUOTE]
The one here sold me a set of Metzler M1s on the cheap and stayed late to install them because I limped in with a nail in the back tire of mine, and he said he'd rather do that than have me out on an unsafe tire or mismatched pair with conflicting profiles. Maybe it's just your sealer that's crap. Or maybe they just don't like you.
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As for them being "too busy doing ATV and Jet Ski crap," are you complaining because you figure you're far more important than other customers are? These people who also had to schedule times to bring their vehicles in to be worked on shoudl have to wait longer because you're just THAT important?
The BMW dealer here in town is $10 an hour cheaper on labor, 100x more friendly, and infinitely more professional.[/QUOTE]
The one here is known for ignoring people unless they outwardly show signs of people being worth a lot -- legitimate customers will often get walked away from or outright ignored if someone comes in riding or driving an expensive vehicle, simply because they're more about the dollar signs than the people. Not professional.
Horse for courses.
The K1200S is a kickass bike and has some pluses and some minuses over the 'Busa. Nobody's more disappointed with the $20k out the door price of an ABS and electronic suspension 12S than the BMW dealers. They had hoped to be selling lots of them at $15k and are getting their noses bloody at the higher than promised price.[/QUOTE]
Oh well. That's the price of being a dealer for a company that thinks its brand is so exclusive that having that mark on the bike raises the price a few grand.
I'm an example of the 2 fer 1's. I did buy a pair of '05 'Busas rather than a K1200S but...I'm not mean mouthing BMW for anything other than what they deserve. The bike's too expensive...period.[/QUOTE]
Meh. In your opinion. In others it's not worth that much. In others it might be worth twice as much. Who knows.
But if the idea of accepting other people's opinions that don't jibe with your own is so distasteful that you need to take your ball and go home, well, I dunno what to say.
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