small note because of the prices.
my present preferred dealer (
www.probrake.com), for example, always charges the same price for a line up to 1.99 meters in length - no matter how long or short it is.
should make you wonder if you think about it a 2nd minute.
I am thinking about it Frank. I think it might be the krapiest link you have ever posted. A link to a German car parts company trying to sell its domain is useful to a Busa rider how?
...and since you asked me to think...They sell 1.99m for the same price as .5m. So the 1.99 meter line is a good deal? Doesn't that make the half meter line a rip-off?
Anyway yer link blows. Are you getting kick backs from them,or trying to increase traffic to help the domain sale?
Here is a theory
@Berlin Germany: The right-hand rule of torque. Align your fingers with the front brake disks and rotate them in the direction of braking. There is some sort of massive force heading to the direction of the right side of the wheel. Hrm. Physically connect the calipers to each other to compensate?
We could be onto something big here, although racers likely have figured this out and compensated for it already.
Yes, but can you as a racer feel an effect in force or response time from this in practical use?
Since so much of breaking is initiating a small amount to balance the bike before applying heavy braking, I would guess that one would have to be extraordinarily sensitive to the feedback in order to feel the effect of brake line expansion. And even once felt, one would just compensate for it with slightly different timing each use moving forward. (?) Admittedly I would have no idea myself from my riding experience, but someone would have to convince me that this is a physical disadvantage, aside from a mere visual effect. Consider what you alluded to above, that once the hydraulic system is loaded, well it is loaded.
The right hand rule applies to torque,I get that HW,but the front wheel is not being torqued like the rear wheel on a bike,or like the rear end in a car that is being twisted by the force of a rotating drive shaft. The front wheel is just along for the ride. It has no force being applied to it,so it is not twisting (right hand rule). The front wheel gets braking force applied to it,and even if the right rotor gets more braking force applied to it than the left,you couldn't "feel" it because both rotors are attached to the same wheel,at the same postition.
Brake lines: A squishy OEM rubber line will still push the piston calipers open,just do it slower. The lines must have a full expansion limit,or they would just burst on full lever pressure. So once they reach full expansion you would have all of the force that the stock master cylinder can deliver. Aftermarket lines have less expansion due to their use of better materials. Once they have expanded (this happens qwicker) the same amount of force is delivered to the calipers.
In my opinion better quality brake lines stop you faster because the force gets applied faster. They are better for all riders,and especially pro riders because the "feel" of the lever is more precise and predictable. The fastest rider thru a corner is the rider who brakes last.
2 bikes,one with aftermarket lines,the other OEM. Emergency stop scenario: Both bikes are travelling at the same speed. The distance covered once braking has started is the huge difference if you ask me. The OEM bike's lines are expanding,while the other is already applying most of the force the master is delivering.
If a hydraulic system is in good working order,its my belief that you could run a brake line in a 360 degree loop,twice and still have it deliver as much force as a straight hose. The front brake lines on a lot of motorcycles drop straight down,especially if it has a single caliper. But what about the billions of other brake applications in the world?
Very few vehicles have a brake system that has all lines never running "up hill" if that makes sense.
Frank...no more crummy links...
Rubb.
- this stupid nonsense - the crossing line - is built today by many (up to all) japanese manufacturers but no matter how often they build such shi77y / lousy rubbish, it remains crap !
