OB_CaveDweller
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You are right on Canuck !
Bullshite posters on tensioners
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OB_Gary Evans
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Yea, the internet does have a lot of worthless crap on it but, never had we the opportunity to share information this quickly. Prior to internet you likely would never had heard about these problems until, God forbid, one ups and bites you in the *** . I read everything of interest on these subjects, make by own evaluation of its importance/source and then act on it. I'll take full responsibility for any screw ups I make. Just hope the manufacture ultimately does the same.
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Rocketman I dunno why you took this personally but it makes me a lil suspect---I did NOT point a finger at anyone specifically, and here's your profile. You've been here how long?
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OB_NumbNuts
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Thats a fair point Lanta
But then how do I lnow you are real??
Everyone here could just be a figment of our imagination..........................
(I know you are real!!!)
If you are, post your VIN number. Don't be shy now...........
But then how do I lnow you are real??
Everyone here could just be a figment of our imagination..........................
(I know you are real!!!)
If you are, post your VIN number. Don't be shy now...........
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HAHAHA I just called Drunk Nuts, he's wasted and can't talk!!!
Crazy *** limey!!!
I'm not trying to point fingers at ANYONE, I just wonder why, once this scare populated the busa boards, did all these folks I've never heard of suddenly appear with tensioner failures...?
Hapo? Nuts? cdolan? TMH?
I replaced mine with Jays(APE). I did so bacause I do not want my baby sitting in the shop awaiting parts FOREVER, especially when I don't know that the end result is going to be the same HP I've worked on for the last 4 months.
That's all I have.
Crazy *** limey!!!
I'm not trying to point fingers at ANYONE, I just wonder why, once this scare populated the busa boards, did all these folks I've never heard of suddenly appear with tensioner failures...?
Hapo? Nuts? cdolan? TMH?
I replaced mine with Jays(APE). I did so bacause I do not want my baby sitting in the shop awaiting parts FOREVER, especially when I don't know that the end result is going to be the same HP I've worked on for the last 4 months.
That's all I have.
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hush nuts?
Umm...I'm willing to bet half of you don't even own a Busa, except that poster behind your computer....
Fact is, most of these tensioner post are bulls&*% except for a few unlucky ones. Afterall, this is the only website with so many tensioner problems; the other busa sites dont seem to have so many tensioner posts and the NHTSA absolutly has no posts on the problem (other than past recall).
I'm sure somewhere in the world a Suzuki rep. with a busa (you know theres got to be one)is reading all these posts and just plain laughing his head off.
I do agree the manual is most likey better but do not think this auto tensioner is a wide-spead problem, my busa sounds like hell when its cold but my backyard mechanic skills tells me its simple valve noise until the oil is circulated, then again I have a 4year extended warrenty
Fact is, most of these tensioner post are bulls&*% except for a few unlucky ones. Afterall, this is the only website with so many tensioner problems; the other busa sites dont seem to have so many tensioner posts and the NHTSA absolutly has no posts on the problem (other than past recall).
I'm sure somewhere in the world a Suzuki rep. with a busa (you know theres got to be one)is reading all these posts and just plain laughing his head off.
I do agree the manual is most likey better but do not think this auto tensioner is a wide-spead problem, my busa sounds like hell when its cold but my backyard mechanic skills tells me its simple valve noise until the oil is circulated, then again I have a 4year extended warrenty
Umm...I'm willing to bet half of you don't even own a Busa, except that poster behind your computer....
Fact is, most of these tensioner post are bulls&*% except for a few unlucky ones. Afterall, this is the only website with so many tensioner problems; the other busa sites dont seem to have so many tensioner posts and the NHTSA absolutly has no posts on the problem (other than past recall).
I'm sure somewhere in the world a Suzuki rep. with a busa (you know theres got to be one)is reading all these posts and just plain laughing his head off.
I do agree the manual is most likey better but do not think this auto tensioner is a wide-spead problem, my busa sounds like hell when its cold but my backyard mechanic skills tells me its simple valve noise until the oil is circulated, then again I have a 4year extended warrenty
Fact is, most of these tensioner post are bulls&*% except for a few unlucky ones. Afterall, this is the only website with so many tensioner problems; the other busa sites dont seem to have so many tensioner posts and the NHTSA absolutly has no posts on the problem (other than past recall).
I'm sure somewhere in the world a Suzuki rep. with a busa (you know theres got to be one)is reading all these posts and just plain laughing his head off.
I do agree the manual is most likey better but do not think this auto tensioner is a wide-spead problem, my busa sounds like hell when its cold but my backyard mechanic skills tells me its simple valve noise until the oil is circulated, then again I have a 4year extended warrenty
Umm...I'm willing to bet half of you don't even own a Busa, except that poster behind your computer....
Fact is, most of these tensioner post are bulls&*% except for a few unlucky ones. Afterall, this is the only website with so many tensioner problems; the other busa sites dont seem to have so many tensioner posts and the NHTSA absolutly has no posts on the problem (other than past recall).
I'm sure somewhere in the world a Suzuki rep. with a busa (you know theres got to be one)is reading all these posts and just plain laughing his head off.
I do agree the manual is most likey better but do not think this auto tensioner is a wide-spead problem, my busa sounds like hell when its cold but my backyard mechanic skills tells me its simple valve noise until the oil is circulated, then again I have a 4year extended warrenty
Fact is, most of these tensioner post are bulls&*% except for a few unlucky ones. Afterall, this is the only website with so many tensioner problems; the other busa sites dont seem to have so many tensioner posts and the NHTSA absolutly has no posts on the problem (other than past recall).
I'm sure somewhere in the world a Suzuki rep. with a busa (you know theres got to be one)is reading all these posts and just plain laughing his head off.
I do agree the manual is most likey better but do not think this auto tensioner is a wide-spead problem, my busa sounds like hell when its cold but my backyard mechanic skills tells me its simple valve noise until the oil is circulated, then again I have a 4year extended warrenty
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All of a sudden there are all these posts about failures, when I look at the profiles they registered same day. BULLSHIT. Who's doing this?
I'm not buying into it. Been around long enuff to know who is real, not gonna believe all this crap from total newbies. Someone's yankin our chain.
I'm not buying into it. Been around long enuff to know who is real, not gonna believe all this crap from total newbies. Someone's yankin our chain.
OB_Rocket Man
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I have been reading this thread for about a year and a new member. I don't bullshit!!!
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'Lantabusa,I did have a tentioner noise not a failer. But I changed the tentioner before there is a failer. Believe who and what you want to believe. But I live in the Northeast. I have four maybe five good months to ride. I did not want my bike sitting in the dealership for a parts that are on back order while the kids that work there are reading the Manual trying to figure out how to put my motor back together.
OB_CaveDweller
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DangerMouse tried to get some hard statistics with his on-line poll. Unfortunately, not that many people responded. What you get with postings is kind of a biased sample (only those with problems or concerned about the problem post) so it looks worse than it probably is.
Has everybody who is concerned about this used the on-line poll ? - if so, the problem is small compared to the large number of Busas out there. Note I did not say it isn't serious, I just said it is a low probability. Also - we have no data on manual tensioners causing problems yet (except the one during installation). Maybe manual tensioners are just as likely to cause slippage and thats why Suzuki went to the automatic tensioner.
Just my ramble.
Has everybody who is concerned about this used the on-line poll ? - if so, the problem is small compared to the large number of Busas out there. Note I did not say it isn't serious, I just said it is a low probability. Also - we have no data on manual tensioners causing problems yet (except the one during installation). Maybe manual tensioners are just as likely to cause slippage and thats why Suzuki went to the automatic tensioner.
Just my ramble.
OB_CaveDweller
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If the failure rate is 5 out of 10,000 then I'm not that concerned. If its 5 out of 10 then I won't ride till its fixed.
I just don't get all the people replacing automatic with manual tensioners when we have no real statistics on the failure rates of either. Suzuki has been building, studying, and racing bikes a lot longer than any of us - They have a heck of alot more data on cam chain tensioners. That some on this board act like thay know better than Suzuki - and that others of us buy into that amazes me.
I just don't get all the people replacing automatic with manual tensioners when we have no real statistics on the failure rates of either. Suzuki has been building, studying, and racing bikes a lot longer than any of us - They have a heck of alot more data on cam chain tensioners. That some on this board act like thay know better than Suzuki - and that others of us buy into that amazes me.
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I might not know more than a Suzuki Engineer But I do know a defective part when I hear one. And I definitly know more about motors than my LOCAL Suzulki dealer's mechanics.
OB_CaveDweller
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Rhino,
No offense intended at you man. I'm sure you are correct.
But here is my point:
1) YOUR tensioner failed. What are YOU going to do about it? a) replace it with a stock suzuki item, or b) Put in an aftermarket item because YOU heard it was better.
2) YOUR tensioner failed. What am I going to do about it ? a) Nothing, or b) Put in an aftermarket item because YOU had a problem and I'm afraid it will happen to ME, and I heard the aftermarket item was better than the Suzuki part.
Note:
i) In neither case do we have any statistics to support our decisions, just what we heard, and
ii) In neither case would you or I let the LOCAL suzuki dealer mechanic do the work
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[This message has been edited by CaveDweller (edited 27 July 2000).]
No offense intended at you man. I'm sure you are correct.
But here is my point:
1) YOUR tensioner failed. What are YOU going to do about it? a) replace it with a stock suzuki item, or b) Put in an aftermarket item because YOU heard it was better.
2) YOUR tensioner failed. What am I going to do about it ? a) Nothing, or b) Put in an aftermarket item because YOU had a problem and I'm afraid it will happen to ME, and I heard the aftermarket item was better than the Suzuki part.
Note:
i) In neither case do we have any statistics to support our decisions, just what we heard, and
ii) In neither case would you or I let the LOCAL suzuki dealer mechanic do the work
.[This message has been edited by CaveDweller (edited 27 July 2000).]
OB_GSXRTURBO1
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A manual tensioner will NOT fail. How many race bikes do you think use manual v.s. factory chain tensioners REGARDLESS of past history or high failure rates? The only reason the factory doesn't use manual adjusters is because you have to have it adjusted when you do the valves, another thing that someone could screw up.
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I am with you on that your tentioner might not fail and your right about not replacing something that is not broken. My tentioner is sent to NHTSA so they can see first hand what I am talking about. Mine did not cause an accident but the possibility that it could is an issue. My bike only had 700 babyed miles on it before it started making noise. So after wieghing my opptions I went for the Manual tentioner. I have them on a few of my bikes and never had a chain failure with them on. I also sent Suzuki a letter from my legal dept. On the issue. I will post if they respond to my complaint
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