censorship

[Guest]

Do you guys keep it going because you miss me? Look at all the posts about Toobad just today. Shane thinks I am afraid of him……Shane you need to get hold of your silly self. Some of you who post like Shane actually encourage people to laugh at you. I told other friends about this site who ride and they look here to laugh (the turtle story is a classic)and now they are encouraging me to continue posting. I would like to retire gracefully and do more constructive things with my free time. So please do not encourage me. Those of you comparing me to cyber Josie need to get a grip too. I don’t use profanity or threaten although some of my biggest detractors have……right Dirty Pete? What I say may be considered childish babble and part truth. The truth part is what bothers most people. Some of you ignore it and take it for what it is. Others participate and actually revel in it. You know who you are…..get a life…….to the rest of you nothing but the best. Just end it and I will enjoy retirement. Dirty Pete your post about “hate posting†is hilarious! Hahahaha you swear and threaten others (remember the guy you threatened with a bat and the thread that included the F word?) and now you are the cyber police man in charge of indentifying “hate postingâ€! You hate the truth and the truth is that you post profanity and threaten people and I don’t. Hahahahaha you are priceless. Now let me retire in peace.

 

[sherm]

I basically agree with Maui. But I think censorship is the wrong word. This forum is not public property, it belongs to someone just like newspapers and broadcast stations belong to someone. A newspaper is not compelled to print anything it doesn't want to print. If the paper chooses not to cover the start of World War III thats not censorship.

I'm against banning individuals from the forum. I favor editorial control just like a newspaper might do. It means screening bad posts before they get on the forum, or deleting them quickly if they do get on the forum.

Here is the criteria I would use:

No posts allowed that insult in any way individuals or groups. By insult I mean calling names, demeaning their intelligence, manhood, judgement etc., questioning their integrity or honesty. This doesn't prevent anyone from disagreeing with anyone else and arguing to the last breath. It just eliminates the sorry state of affairs we have now.

The other thing I would do is terminate topics that have wandered off the original intent. Someone will start a topic about engine oil and twenty posts later its about fly fishing. That should discourage people from taking over topics for there own interests. You are always free to start a new topic.

From what I've seen on other forums, it doesn't take much editorial control to change the character of the forum. Once people know what the limits are they pretty much abide by them without intervention.



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[OB_shane]

Sherm, thank you for stepping outside the paradigm. In France they used pooper scoopers for their sidewalks. The city would employ people on enduros to ride on the sidewalks with this cool contraption on the back that would go down and pick up the dog
droppings.

Do you have any thoughts on implementation? We live in a pluralistic, global society, and what is offensive to one person, is only mildly amusing to another. How would judge what was insulting? Would you eliminate all sexually references? Would you allow profanity? That guy who keeps messing on these threads believes that the four letter word he used at me was not profane - So, what is profanity? What is an acceptable way to correct someone when they post incorrect information? Wouldn’t it be terribly time consuming for BigDog (no offense Chase - just staying on the dog theme) to read each post to see if something needed to be edited?

Hmmm.... BigDog Chases LittleDog out of city. There’s so much imagery there, but I digress.

Sherm, pretend that you are the moderator and look through all of my posts and tell me what you would like to edit. Do you see what I mean? Time consuming and difficult to judge.

Your comments...

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[Guest]

Hahaha Shane defender of the site. You are going to try to gain credibility by arguing with me? Foolish nit whit.....they are going to get pissed at you for calling me back I would like to retire but you have to keep it up don't you? You can use the search to show everyone where I swore at you. Now you have to back up your aforementioned assertion..........

"That guy who keeps messing on these threads believes that the four letter word he used at me was not profane - So, what is profanity?"

No show everyone where I swore at you? If you don't you will look stupid. Then ask dirty Pete about his thread called @*&# this forum. See Shane keeping it up is stupid. Hahahahahaha I wish you would just let me go away and stop trying to be the big smart adjudicator of censorship. Hahahahaha

 

[OB_KawAbuser]

WANTED: 200/50/17 paddle type sand tire.

It is just too bad you can't find these tires no matter where you look.

Maybe some of the Hayabusa hillclimb bike owners can help.

 

[OB_BUDDHA]

Toobad your a loser
Toobad you can't get a life
Toobad you won't disappear
Toobad you won't stop breathing
Toobad your an sugar
Toobad your 12
Toobad you are a squid(if you have a
bike)
Toobad you keep typing
Toobad your friends probably think your a bobo
Toobad kawasaki don't pay you for this
Toobad you suck so much that you have to live your life through others
Toobad your a bitch
Toobad your a fag
Toobad your retarded
Toobad you couldn't straighten out like some of the others
Toobad your annoying
Toobad you probably have no friends

Your not gonna retire yet are you?
You still have work to do you good time jerkoff.

 

[Guest]

Unbelievable.....told you I would not post anything. Wanted to go away....very simple stop posting about me and I am gone. Shane, Buddah, Kawabuser just can't.....do they miss me? I would have to answer yes....why? Don't know. Now Buddah uses profanity....why? He is not very intellegent? I am going because I am embarassed to argue with you. Buddah you should clean up your post just in case some 10 year old comes here and thinks that is how you talk if you own a bike. You guys need to look long and hard at yourselves and maybe think about growing up. Hahahaha

 

[OB_KawAbuser]

Shane look at the *Retarded ZX12 Wannabe Thread* harvested a lot of them, look at their post times.

I would just like to still say there has not been a Honda or Yamaha owner that comes here to spew. A lot of guys moved from a ZX11 to the Busa and we have not heard one of one of them tradeing back.

The spewage crew will be here till the ZX12 lands because they have no one else to bother. The R1 is the best sportbike and Kawasaki has nothing to compare now or in 2000. Honda has not stood up to the plate in the Busa class this year, they are going at it with the R1 with there new CBR929 and RC51.

The Hayabusa raised the bar so high that Kawasaki has it *on them* to try and raise it some more. I wouldn't be suprised if they fall short though, but they have been at this 1999 ZX12 for a while.

I wouldn't doubt that the *problem children* are really little Napoleans who are forced to ride lowered 600 ninja's and type from their high chair. Or it could be the work of the creator of the *Teenage Mutant Ninja's*.

Who cares Busa is King (for NOW)and before it was a Blackbird.

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[OB_Buffalo]

I personally am NOT in favor of censorship in any form. Especially since this is precisely what Zippy the pinhead boy and his swarthy sidekick Dildo would like anyway. To break up and disrupt the site for all who enjoy it. These are spoiled bored childern nothing more and I for one have no problem ignoring the half wits cause they are non persons anyway. They do not have Hayabusa's and have no intention of buying one. They are trouble making dits and a waste of fresh air plain and simple. They couldn't handle the bike anyway and do not have the intelligence to learn how. Jeez guys can't we just laugh at the pathetic crap they spew? I can, make fun of my nickname, belittle the fact that I ride the best bigbore sportbike in the world today. Think I give a poop? Not hardly, It will take a lot more than some piss ant who claims to be the voice of all things Kawasaki to ruin my day I assure you. Forget these sad ass punks, that is what they are. Enjoy our site and our brethren and the incredo bike that we all have in common. I am, and the nay say'ers don't mean bobo to me one way or the other. I would not even dignify any of their silly ass grade school drivel with an answer. Just my two cents guys, I do not presume to speak for everybody.

 

[OB_BUDDHA]

Well you can speak on my half Buffalo.
Thats what i wanted to say but didn't feel like trying.

 

[OB_BUDDHA]

I'm sorry does profanity offend you?
Well then...good time you.
Your the only 10 year old on this site.
And you can't even spell the word intelligent.

 

[sherm]

Shane, you are making it more complicated than it is. We have a few guys on the forum who get way out of line. A few times on the cutting room floor and they'll lose interest or clean up their act.

Editing on the moderated forums I have participatd in has been very rare, but the discussions have been very lively and heated. Fifty of us could try and tell toobad or fc to cool it and get back just more of the same. The moderator only has to say it once to make it stick.

The alternative is what we have now and probably worse once the 929, RC51, and ZX12 get closer to the dealers and bands of zealots form around each one.