Depressing news about stock 04 dyno

[DR1300R]

'03 AE at the time of Dyno 340 miles on bike. 169 hp @ 101 tq Full rs3 Yosh w/race baffle, PC usb customed mapped & pair mod.

theres a post on here of bone stock '04 makin 167 or sumptin like that

152 sounds pretty close for a stock Busa. I wish I would have had mine done b-for mods silly on my part.

 

[ralnsplder]

Well all plans for my future mods have ceased. I just bought a new f150 and will now be broke for the rest of my life. Just kidding, Just a minor setback for now. I did manage to slip in a pc befor the truck deal so atleast that is out of the way. Now i can do the free airbox mod.

 

[The Big Red One]

Raln just look at the numbers posted here....most factory Busa's stock are going to be pretty close in horsepower...yet the numbers here vary from 138.7 RWHP (usn04) to 153.35 hp (Mattjul) to 167hp (MycMike). Those are all claimed (?) stock bikes on diff dyno's in diff weather conditions. On the same dyno/same day they're gonna be within a couple of hp of each other. Thats just the way it is....these bikes are designed to make you smile when you ride them...anybody can fudge up dyno numbers if thats you're thing. Hopefully for most of us riding's the thing....and knowing your bike is just as good as any other machine out there when it comes to grin factor. The only number that I worry about is ther number of hours a week I can squeeze in for ride time

 

[SHODA]

When you get full exhaust and puter dont forget BMC air filter will double your cfm.

 

[Don Hardcastle]

I just had mine tuned and dyno'd this weekend at a bike rally we have here in NW Arkansas.  I got 138.7 RWHP.  I don't remember the TQ.

Was told today that the Superflow portable dynos, that was used to tune my bike, are consistently about 14 to 16 hp low. That means that with my mods I am getting about 153 or so on the ground which is comparable to the other '04s with similar mods.

 

[Johnnycheese]

It is the otherway around they read High the Factroy pro Ec997 ones read that low

 

[ralnsplder]

When you get full exhaust and puter dont forget BMC air filter will double your cfm.

Yea i Have been looking into doing that with the full airbox mod to go with it. I might actually do it befor I get an exhaust, just to get a few more hp.

 

[Don Hardcastle]

It is the otherway around they read High the Factroy pro Ec997  ones read that low

Your telling me that an '04 with my mods is reading high at 138.7RWHP?  Now, I got the information from a Dynojet/Power Commander tuner/dealer so it could be the "competition talking".  I just can't see my bike making 138.7 or less for that matter especially when all these guys are making mid 150s with the mods I have.



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[ralnsplder]

Well, if your mods are the ones listed at the bottom of your profile, then you really wont get much more then stock hp. Slip ons maybe give 2-3 hp if that and the pc will help it run better, but i'm not sure about hp gain. 138.7 still seems really low. I would take it back to suzuki and ask them about it. You might have somethingwrong that is causing it. then again your pc could be set way wrong. Ive heard that sometimes you can't tune your pc perfect on a dyno due to it not getting the ram air. I am not sure about this though, you might want to check with Johnny Cheese. I know my dealer does their dynos inside of a storage container with only the rear of it open. I was told this will cut down on air flow and not allow it to reach its peak hp levels.
I would check it out somewhere else. Just my opinion. I would just ask the dealer why a 04 busa is only putting out 138.7

 

[The Big Red One]

usn04 your bike is fine...its NOT putting out 138 hp.....you just got a VERY lousy dyno run....those guys just have no idea how to set up the run for your conditions. If you were actually only getting 138 hp you would know it......so is it dog slow? can you barely outrun 5-6-7 year old liter bikes?? 600's??....grandma in her caddy?? no?? I thought so

You guys are getting WAYYYYY too concerned over crappy dyno readings. You really need to enjoy your Hayabusas that are putting out just as much as any other Hayabusa which is ALOT

So go ride and enjoy.....your a$$-dyno will tell you if your Busa's the slowest piece of shid ever to grace the planet or not......and I would say NOT.....lol

 

[Don Hardcastle]

The Big Red One,

Thanks for the reply, no it is definately not slow, as a matter of fact the dyno guy picked up almost 9hp over the base line run. The a$$-dyno can't tell me a number, but it can tell me that bike has more power and torque than it did.

ralnsplder,

You said "Well, if your mods are the ones listed at the bottom of your profile, then you really wont get much more then stock hp." Sorry brother, I don't buy that. My other toy is a 2003 SVT Cobra that makes 11.74 1/4 mile passes. By just adding exhaust I added 22 RWHP, now I know I am not going to see that kind of gains on the busa.

It is not about the numbers for me. I want to see an increase commenserate with the money I spend to justify to myself spending it. I have a little less than $4000 worth of mod in the Cobra. I can outrun a stock Viper and out handle just about anything on 4 wheels.

I am taking the bike to a Dynojet/Power Commander Dealer/Tuner. I will let you know.

Peace
Shiny side up...........Rubber side down!!

 

[Johnnycheese]

The Big Red One,
 
Thanks for the reply, no it is definately not slow, as a matter of fact the dyno guy picked up almost 9hp over the base line run.  The a$$-dyno can't tell me a number, but it can tell me that bike has more power and torque than it did.

ralnsplder,

You said "Well, if your mods are the ones listed at the bottom of your profile, then you really wont get much more then stock hp."  Sorry brother, I don't buy that.  My other toy is a 2003 SVT Cobra that makes 11.74 1/4 mile passes.  By just adding exhaust I added 22 RWHP, now I know I am not going to see that kind of gains on the busa.  

It is not about the numbers for me.  I want to see an increase commenserate with the money I spend to justify to myself spending it.  I have a little less than $4000 worth of mod in the Cobra.  I can outrun a stock Viper and out handle just about anything on 4 wheels.

I am taking the bike to a Dynojet/Power Commander Dealer/Tuner.  I will let you know.

Peace
Shiny side up...........Rubber side down!!

You gained 9 with slip ons and mapping?
Nope can't happen.
what did they use for a correction factor or did they do it uncorrected?
Got a graph?

 

[Don Hardcastle]

JohnnyC.,
Working on getting the graph. I had it done at a bike ralley and I have the contact info for the guy, so I will post it when I get it. As far as correction factor, no clue.

 

[Johnnycheese]

there are alot to consider if it was just one of those in a tent or tralier dynos.
I had a SV650 after I jetted it on the dyno and the customer said wow that is about 4 HP less than most. I said that is the most it will make. after rolling it off the dyno I told him the bike rolled funny come to find out he had a slow leak in the rear tire and only 20PSI in it filled it to 36 and wow an addition 4HP.
Case being how it was strapped, what gear the pull was in,what gearing you are running ,ext arm, chain and sprocket wear, and condition the dyno is in.
The MOST IMPORTANT thing is the correction factor,I quit using the weather station on the dyno and correct it myself so I know what it is making.The customer gets the graph with STD on it due to that will be within 1-3 low from real SAE.

 

[ralnsplder]

ralnsplder,

You said "Well, if your mods are the ones listed at the bottom of your profile, then you really wont get much more then stock hp."  Sorry brother, I don't buy that.  My other toy is a 2003 SVT Cobra that makes 11.74 1/4 mile passes.  By just adding exhaust I added 22 RWHP, now I know I am not going to see that kind of gains on the busa.  


Shiny side up...........Rubber side down!!

Slipons just don't add that much hp to a system. If they did, noone would buy full systems. With exhaust, you get the hp mainly from the header not the pipe. If you have restricted flow at the head, it really isnt going to matter how big the can is or if you have one at all. You need the header to be larger. Your pc will really not add hp, it will just correct the air/fuel mixture. Granted if you have a bad setup to begin with this will make your hp lower, but you cannot go out and buy a pc and expect to get hp gains just by adding it. you need the other mods for that.

I really dont think you shift light or srceen help you with hp, if they do I want to know your secret.

 

[Don Hardcastle]

ralnsplder,
Ok, ok the shift light doesn't add HP any more than stickers, but it looks kewl as sh!t and at 10,200 is functional. Thanks for the info, I have contacted a Power Commander Dealer/tuner about an hour and a half from me. He has tuned several Busas and said with my mods, prolly in the vicinity of 162 or 163. Made an appt. will let you guys know

Don

 

[ralnsplder]

LOL ok. Well he might be right about it getting you to 162-163, but that is not getting it there from 138. The first one was probably a mess up. my stock bike was done in hawaii in a storage container with limited air and also about 96 degrees and about 93 % humidity and I got 154. I have heard that some epople get 158-161 depending on loaction and weather, also on dyno setup. So if your bike falls into that catagoy, you could add 2-3 hp and get to 162-163. LIke I said, The first numbers were way off. If you get to that dyno and that one is also showing low, I would take it back to the dealer and tell them you want a new one.

 

[JIM1000]

My bone stock busa did 158.8 here in MO, and my friends bone stock ZX10 did 152 or 154, and a 04 R1 did 156, same dyno and operator, different days.

 

[FAKK2]

This may sound stupid BUT...

Is their a day they pull cycles Busa's Kawi's ect... off the line to do tests on like in the Magazines so they come out looking good on the tests and dyno? I heard Thursdays for Busa's is this true or a Myth? and if so is it Thursday or wed or what?

 

[jusmoov]

I can't get anyone with a literbike to step up> i have a friend with a new 10r and he keeps saying his will beat mine, but he has yet to prove it after numerous times of me asking when are we going to run.

Unless he weighs a lot more than you he will beat you doing roll on's unless he is a total spaz rider. My advice, only race him from lights or a stop don't start 2nd youll get beat. I don't know how experienced you are, but theres no way, with two equally experienced riders, that the 10 will take you from the launch.