Double Bubble Disapointment

Guys, those little rubber thingies are called wellnuts. You don't need to pop the backside off or anything else. Just loosen the screw, or even remove it. Grasp the rubber rim with fingers and GENTLY twist and pull out. If it sticks, you can jiggle the screen with the other hand while pulling. If it isn't already screwed up it will easily come out. Put a LITTLE silicone lube on it when re-installing. DON'T overtighten. The wellnut works by having the screw shorten and expand the rubber. It's not like securing a brake caliper. Screw it in until you feel a very slight resistance, then stop.To work, all it has to do is not fall out, and it probably doesn't even need the screw.

[This message has been edited by SlowHand (edited 22 December 1999).]
 
Factory, I have pictures taken with digital camera. I can e-mail them to you but don't know how to get them on the site (if this is possible), being somewhat "technically challenged" with computers.
 
KawAbuser: take it easy on us, man. I've taken my engine apart, adjusted valves, dismantle carburetor assemblies, etc. etc. As factory pointed out, we just want our bikes without a scratch, and we certainly can use your familiarity with it (service manuals don't help here).
Turn off the computer, get laid and come back later!
 
Backup!, these points of installation have been covered here in depth.

If your bike is new, then the wellnuts are not deformed as the ones us 99 owners have after they deform over time.

Try a search first for information, Yes there is a lot of info on the ZG DB product and on the subject of installation with the deformed "wellnuts".

Hey we paid our dues to you new owners in the introduction of new products, take a little time and search the archives of the .ORG first.

If you can't change the shield, then dont mess with the valves!

SEARCH feature does work, try it before you complain. You might just find what you are looking for.
 
Hey KawAbuser, I'm the world's worst with a screwdriver and I had no problem............................kinda scary huh..........lol..............
 
Ok, I agree, this was an easy install. In fact I'd read a post from someone who was asking how the db was installed. Because of that post, I went at mine with a little hesitation, assuming that I would also run into some trouble.

Now, I'm a new guy - to .ORG, but I've had my bike since April, so don't get me wrong. The guys asking these questions are relatively new guys to org, but their bike are BRAND NEW! I remember when I got my bike, the last thing I wanted to do was screw it up b/c I didn't know what I was doing.

I think these guys are just asking for a little advice from those who have had their bike for a while. I agree that this wasn't a difficult install, but cut em a little slack! Wait till they've had their bike for a week before jumping on them! :)
 
Val, no I an only saying use the search funtion of this site.

If you did after my last reply you would find this subject is already covered to death.

Including the *Wellnut* problem.

I am not trying to be a jerk, just stating that for you new guy's a lot of your answers are there in the archives. Try it, I covered the *Wellnut* issue a long time ago.

I am sorry if I came off rude, but check out what I am telling you and then tell me I am wrong. I am just letting you know the info is there for you.

KawAbuser
 
KA: The information was volunteered by nice members, if you know how to read, and I'm taking advantage of their friendliness. Stay out of this subject if it upsets you that much, and use your time to post something positive in another subject. And no, I don't have my stupid bike yet, so I don't know how the hell those rubber screws look like.
 
Well here is the results of a search for the word "Wellnut". The search feature is there to help you.

KawAbuser
Senior Member
posted 07 November 1999 05:14 PM

I just want you to know that the rubber *wellnuts* that retain the windscreen become
deformed over time. When you try to remove them to clean the windscreen or replace
the OEM with a Zero Gravity, you may have a hard time pulling them out. Remove both
screws and jiggle the screen about to help them line up with the fairing holes and grab
them with a pair of needle nose pliers(put blue masking tape on paint in the surrounding
area to protect paint if you slip). Suzuki will sell you new ones for about $5.00 each.

The rubber pieces become deformed under compression and a ridge sets in the rubber
making this a pain the a.s.s. to remove and install. If you buy a new screen order new
rubber retainers from Suzuki(the Lockhart pieces are not the same).

You can also try cutting the ridge off with a razor blade - Be Careful!

Save the ZG plastic bag and store the OEM in it.



VegasDude
Senior Member
posted 08 November 1999 01:46 AM

Mine were deformed too. But i have had my windscreen off prior to this, so I knew of
this small problem. Just spray some windex or other similar soap based cleaner and it goes right in.

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Screen removal topic -

Author
Topic: Screen Removal
BigPete
Senior Member
posted 07 December 1999 12:52 PM

OK Guys.....anyone with a manual who can advise me how to remove/replace my
screen. It appears to be NOT as straight forward as just removing the two screws.
New 'Scorpion' cans sound cool though.... they were easy to swap !


KawAbuser
Senior Member
posted 07 December 1999 03:49 PM

The problem with removing the screen is in the rubber *wellnuts* that Suzuki uses. The
bike arrives in the crate without the screen in place, if the mechanic tightened the two
screws too tight then the rubber deforms and the rubber parts end up with bulges in them. I used a pair of needle nose pliers to grab them as your hands may not get a good grip on the little rubber *wellnuts* flat washer like areas.

Careful you don't scratch the paint, jiggle the sreen around as you pull on the *wellnuts*, as screen hole and fairing hole alignment is a little peculiar.

When you get them out either put in new ones ($5ea) or get a razor blade and trim off
the lumps.


BigPete
Senior Member
posted 07 December 1999 04:49 PM

Thanx Kawabuser.....so do the rubber bits come out...leaving the threaded bit inside ?
I wasn't sure if they did or not so I let em be.


Dirty Pete
Senior Member
posted 07 December 1999 05:00 PM

Spray some WD-40 in there and pull/wiggle the whole thing out firmly, including the
threaded metal parts, with little blunt nose pliers, trying not to tear the rubber.

For re-insertion, put the screw in and shove the sub-assembly back in with your Allen key.


KawAbuser
Senior Member
posted 07 December 1999 05:50 PM

A *wellnut* is a rubber fitting which has a brass threaded insert molded in. The rubber
and the insert are all one piece.

Bulldog email me and I will send you a picture if you need one.
 
Oh dear ....I seem to have stirred things up a bit.
So how does this search thingy work ????

BP havin a grin.

(still haven't changed the screen)
 
Factory and Valklex, sorry I just didn't do that for you in the beginning.

Thank you Chase, for making the "Search" feature available to me so that I may serve others!
 
When I replaced my windscreen with a DB I removed the rubber grommets FROM THE INSIDE. You'll need to remove the two plastic clips holding the black plastic panels to the cowl/windscreen (no need to remove the panels themselves). It's a lot easier getting the thin rubber end out of the hole than the rubber spline. For installation, I reverse the procedure ... go from the inside out, using a pair of need-nose pliers for assistance.

--Felix
 
KawAbuser, no hard feelings at all. I'm sorry I was in a bad mood too, but I was really upset for not having my bike, and I was asking for info before having it (kind of stupid, eh?). I finally got the bike yesterday, and it didn't take a second to figure all you guys said. But thanks a lot for the search info anyway. I wish you the best of times and a prosperous and healthy Y2K; same to everybody else.
JC
 
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