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[Mr Brown]

I just wonder myself why our politicians think they can just do as they please...

this is not a party thing, this is ALL politicians... the only difference between the left and right is the letter after their name... they are all crooks (most could not pass a background check to get in to law enforcement..)

The problem is "un-doing" some of this after it is in place... near impossible.. Unless of course we just quit paying the power hungry dirt bags...

arguing points wont work... need a comprehensive plan to replace these guys, institute term limits and take this country in a direction of logic instead of "feel good political correctness" (which in of itself is only a smoke screen for these guys to do as they please)

I hear ya Bogus, term limits is where it's at.
It's disguised as a party thing, they keep us arguing over the trivial matters while they continue to perform acts on our eyeballs which are illegal in most if not all states.....

 

[Bullitt995]

god forbid they take a slightly smaller profit margin and install proven technology that makes cleaner air......

haha they won't make smaller margins. They'll just pass the cost along to you. tough to understand huh?

 

[Justyntym]

You think think the republicans represent the middle class? Dude you SERIOUSLY need to get out more. You are aware that the two most influential conservatives in the country are talking heads, not even real politicians aren't you? Limbaugh and Beck who haven't had an original thought between the two of them, will lead the GOP farther away from the small bit of rationale and common sense it still has left!
You said you have never seen a bigger liar, when I point one out you say it doesn't matter..... typical. Ignore the question when you don't like the answer!
People that vote differently than you are worthless? Forget getting out more you need to adjust your meds! Little bit angry aren't we?
You and Glen can have your tea party, hope it works out well for you guys.
Next thing you will be asking for your country back......
Dude you're a shining example of the flaws of the GOP. Thanks
again for making it easier for Obama to get elected.....

OMG...yeah go for it. The middle class wants to get taxed out the wahzoo
for healthcare for the worthless. That makes sense.

Do you honestly believe that with the social BS programs that the dems use
to buy votes that the people in the lower class or receiving welfare are voting
republican? ???

So if the nation is virtually split, and a large portion is voting Dem (the welfare
group and lower as I stated), then by simple math it would be offset by the
a large majority of the middle class being Rep.

You post all the little icons you want, the nation swings this way and that
politically. The harder it goes one way, the more it swings back the other.

We wont ask for our country back...we'll just take it. Watch...

 

[F=MA]

Really...sorry. I don't know of any Republicans that are in trailers, I do know
a few that watch Nascar (I'm in the south, what do you expect).

Your a...image and example of the "typical" republican is a bit scewed. Most
of the ones I know are business owners and professionals, etc. Most are pretty
smart and savoy.

Still, I'd take a trailer, cheetoes eating, nascar watching beer drinker over a
3rd generation welfare recipiant with 8 kids from 7 different men looking for
more handouts that refuses to and accept personal responsibilty for ones
own actions and position...

You're correct. It's just as wrong to stereotype Republicans as white-trash as it is to stereotype Democrats as welfare recipients. One would think we'd be mature enough to realize that.

Most of the Democrats I know are business owners and professionals. This says less about the kind of people who identify themselves as republicans or democrats, and more about the socioeconomic class you and I are in.

Of course, it's always easier to build an arguement and make ourselves feel superior when we tell ourselves those with different viewpoints are that worst-case, stereotype.

The AM radio and cable "news" demagogues would have a much tougher time collecting their million dollar paychecks if we'd develop a little more wisdom.

 

[F=MA]

haha they won't make smaller margins. They'll just pass the cost along to you. tough to understand huh?

Brand new member who jumped right into the lion's den with his/her first post!

 

[Justyntym]

Uh huh...

"Only 30% of U.S. voters now say the country is heading in the right direction, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national survey. That's the lowest finding on this question since mid-February but is still 13 points higher than a year ago."

The decline in voter confidence in the nation’s current course may help explain why 71% of voters nationwide say they’re at least somewhat angry about the current policies of the federal government. That figure includes 46% who are Very Angry.

Right Direction or Wrong Track - Rasmussen Reports

 

[Mr Brown]

OMG...yeah go for it. The middle class wants to get taxed out the wahzoo
for healthcare for the worthless. That makes sense.

Do you honestly believe that with the social BS programs that the dems use
to buy votes that the people in the lower class or receiving welfare are voting
republican? ???

So if the nation is virtually split, and a large portion is voting Dem (the welfare
group and lower as I stated), then by simple math it would be offset by the
a large majority of the middle class being Rep.

You post all the little icons you want, the nation swings this way and that
politically. The harder it goes one way, the more it swings back the other.

We wont ask for our country back...we'll just take it. Watch...

So only the welfare class and lower vote democrat? And all who need healthcare are worthless?
Of course the nation swings back and forth politically, and it isn't nearly as split as you and your silly friends would like to think. The vast majority of people exercise common sense and think rationally. They don't mind helping folks that need a hand, and they work hard for what they recieve. Those are what makes this country great, not whiners and doom-sayers. Wasn't it you that was so offended by the suggestion that wealth would be re-distributed at some point? How come the pendulum can swing when it's going you're way but you want to stop it when it swings the other way?

 

[Mr Brown]

haha they won't make smaller margins. They'll just pass the cost along to you. tough to understand huh?

Not tough to understand, just amazed that we allow it....

 

[Mr Brown]

Uh huh...

"Only 30% of U.S. voters now say the country is heading in the right direction, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national survey. That's the lowest finding on this question since mid-February but is still 13 points higher than a year ago."

The decline in voter confidence in the nation’s current course may help explain why 71% of voters nationwide say they’re at least somewhat angry about the current policies of the federal government. That figure includes 46% who are Very Angry.

Right Direction or Wrong Track - Rasmussen Reports

Seriously? Now we are trotting out statistics? Wow. What demographic was covered in this survey? What were the choices given? What is the margin of error? What was the geographic location of the study? What time of day was it conducted? What day(s) of the week?
Had you ever taken a stats class? Statistics are totally worthless, they can be twisted to show anything the pollster wants to "prove". Is that all you got?

 

[Justyntym]

So only the welfare class and lower vote democrat? And all who need healthcare are worthless?
Of course the nation swings back and forth politically, and it isn't nearly as split as you and your silly friends would like to think. The vast majority of people exercise common sense and think rationally. They don't mind helping folks that need a hand, and they work hard for what they recieve. Those are what makes this country great, not whiners and doom-sayers. Wasn't it you that was so offended by the suggestion that wealth would be re-distributed at some point? How come the pendulum can swing when it's going you're way but you want to stop it when it swings the other way?

I've have NO problem helping people, especially when times are tough.
For example, I applaud unemployement extentions.

I do have a problem with generation after generation of welfare recipients.
I remember reading an article, years ago, when the republicans were talking
about putting a limit on welfare (which they should, 3 years) and they
interviewed (insert name) who was herself a 3rd generation welfare recipient,
she was young don't remember her exact age with several kid of her own and
"just didn't what she was going to do". How about...closing your legs and getting
a job ??? There's a novel idea.

You talk about exercising common sense and rationality...wonderful. That would
include taking personal responsibility for yourself and your actions.

I've got no problem with a spouse with children that looses a loved one and
needs help, or the disabled, etc...I got a problem with people capable of working
and chose not to and want others to do for them while they contribute
nothing while adding to the burdern every nine months.

The pendulim swinging the other way has not or should not include the socialism
or redistribution of wealth. Yea, I take offense to that. When the healthcare
plan goes thru, lets say they will take approx. $500 a month, 6,000 a year
to the tune of $30,000 from me 30,000 from my Daughter (she's 24 perfect health)
$30,00 from my son (he's 23, perfect health) for a grand total(just from the 3 of us)
of $90,000 for the five year period BEFORE THE BENIFITS EVEN KICK IN IN 2014
just so the aboved 3rd generation welfare recipeint can have health insurance.
And that's common sense to you and a good thing...:wtf:

The same insurance I've paying for MYSELF for the last 30 years by...here it
comes...wait for it...getting our of bed EVERYDAY and going to work...EVERYDAY.
There's that pesky personal responsibility thing again.

And your right, this country was no made great by whinners and doom sayers
and it sure as hell wasn't made great by people walking around with their hands
out asking for freebees or socialists. It was made great by people with a
vision of freedom and lack of government intervention spurned on by energized
people in the free enterprise system, the American dream if will, of actually
keeping what you earn.


I was thinking about this the other day, JFK and his historic speach...
when did being a Democrat change from...
"Ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"
to...
"where's my free stuff"

 

[Justyntym]

Seriously? Now we are trotting out statistics? Wow. What demographic was covered in this survey? What were the choices given? What is the margin of error? What was the geographic location of the study? What time of day was it conducted? What day(s) of the week?
Had you ever taken a stats class? Statistics are totally worthless, they can be twisted to show anything the pollster wants to "prove". Is that all you got?

Yeah we all know how polls work, but
That's more than you presented....
I didn't even throw these out there...

90% of dropouts vote democrat.

78% of minorities vote democrat.

and

87% who make less than $30,000 a year vote democrat?


Ah but that's allright...
we'll throw out a few more and keep the head in the sand

Bliss...it's all yours.

 

[zellabusa]

Anyway, back on subject, I think that energy costs will rise dramatically also, especially since the EPA, only today, declared carbon dioxide to be a dangerous pollutant, paving the way for new restrictions. These new restrictions will cost a lot. Plant Scherer, a Southern Company power plant near here, is already undergoing a 187 million dollar project to install filtering systems. Geuss who pays that? Does'nt plants and animals both give off CO2? I think this type of scenerio is what frustrates republicans the most

 

[Justyntym]

sorry


I wish we make a HUGE push towards solar power, I guess the tech
isn't quite there yet.

The SUN...that's where our future lies. Clean limitless power.

Our EPA is gonna make our life miserable while China....

 

[Mr Brown]

Yeah we all know how polls work, but
That's more than you presented....
I didn't even throw these out there...

90% of dropouts vote democrat.

78% of minorities vote democrat.

and

87% who make less than $30,000 a year vote democrat?


Ah but that's allright...
we'll throw a few more and keep the head in the sand

Bliss...it's all yours.

Perhaps you misunderstood me. Try to keep up: Statistics are worthless. Anybody who has taken even the most basic of stats classes knows this, so please stop offering them as "proof" of your sterotyping.
The democrat thinking shifted around the same time the republican theme shifted from Reagan's "If we love our country we should also love our countrymen" to "it's my country think like me or leave".
Equating a lack of personal responsibility with the democratic party is typical of somebody who has your "Political" views. As if the only people getting up tomorrow and going to work are republican.

 

[Mr Brown]

Anyway, back on subject, I think that energy costs will rise dramatically also, especially since the EPA, only today, declared carbon dioxide to be a dangerous pollutant, paving the way for new restrictions. These new restrictions will cost a lot. Plant Scherer, a Southern Company power plant near here, is already undergoing a 187 million dollar project to install filtering systems. Geuss who pays that? Does'nt plants and animals both give off CO2? I think this type of scenerio is what frustrates republicans the most

Scrubber technology is not new. Power companies have been putting off installing them for years. Now they will have to and will pass the cost on to us, when in fact it could have been distributed over time. It frustrates republicans because they can't stall and delay it any longer. It's good technology that hurts nobody, and cleans the air. So it cuts into profits a bit. Oh freakin well. Since when did making money become moe important than sustaining resources?

 

[m_ridgeway]

Nuclear power.
Lng.
Those are our best options imho. Epa could make either viable or nearly impossible to utilize.
Pass on tax credits to facilites that update or eliminate old tech.
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[Mr Brown]

Nuclear power.
Lng.
Those are our best options imho. Epa could make either viable or nearly impossible to utilize.
Pass on tax credits to facilites that update or eliminate old tech.
Posted via Mobile Device

No way dude. That makes way too much sense......
Obviously you will never get elected. Your ideas would actually work...

 

[Justyntym]

Perhaps you misunderstood me. Try to keep up: Statistics are worthless. Anybody who has taken even the most basic of stats classes knows this, so please stop offering them as "proof" of your sterotyping.
The democrat thinking shifted around the same time the republican theme shifted from Reagan's "If we love our country we should also love our countrymen" to "it's my country think like me or leave".
Equating a lack of personal responsibility with the democratic party is typical of somebody who has your "Political" views. As if the only people getting up tomorrow and going to work are republican.

You try to keep up (pointless I know)...we're done threadjacking.

Bliss...it's all yours

 

[Mr Brown]

You try to keep up (pointless I know)...were done threadjacking.

Bliss...it's all yours

Snappy comeback dude. You think that one up all by yourself?
As long as people like you represent the republican party, Obama is looking good for that second term....

 

[Fastfrog007]

Ill just Burn my IRS letters for heat