$2170 dollar exhaust system dood....he is looking for $3000 worth of performance mods for $200
Exhaust system - need assistance!
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$2170 dollar exhaust system dood....he is looking for $3000 worth of performance mods for $200
TruWrecks
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If you want more low end from a full system, find someone that makes a 4-2-2 system with an H-Pipe right before the cans. Most full systems are only designed to make the most at the top. Those are all 4-2-1-2 systems for dual cans.
I have a 4-2-2 header made at a local shop for mine. I had it ceramic coated. I put Micron pipes on it and it looks and sounds great. If I have to do it again I will go with TiForce duals or Akro duals. I want to know how loud they are first.
I have a 4-2-2 header made at a local shop for mine. I had it ceramic coated. I put Micron pipes on it and it looks and sounds great. If I have to do it again I will go with TiForce duals or Akro duals. I want to know how loud they are first.
KYT
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I really like the longer cans.. but that Brocks is really sweet!
Give it up with the exhaust system DUDE...you're livin' a 'pipe' dream
Going up on the rear is the same as going down on the front from a performance issue. Going down on the front puts more stress on the chain.
Yea I figured as much.. ;.;
I wouldn't want to add stress to the chain.
+1 in the back, I'd be more willing to do, maybe +2 depending on how much it changed things.
I'll have to do some searching on gearing changes though.
I REALLY don't want to have to use a speedo healer, but if that's my only choice.. uh well that's my only choice lol
KYT
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ok so maybe I'm confused.. isn't a 4-2-2 with an H before the cans, the same as a 4-2-1-2?
4 from the head merge into 2 pipes, that merge into 1 collector, and split back into 2 cans ?
How is a 4-2-2- different?
Don't even bother with +1 on the rear...you will notice +2, but +3 will fit on the stock chain. Hell I'm +4 and I don't have any trouble keeping the front end on the ground. I do know how to ride...you can ask around if you want.
If you want to wheelie it will, but YOU are the one twisting the throttle...throttle control is where it is at. Trust me and order a 46 rear sprocket
TruWrecks
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An X-pipe is an actual 4-2-1-2 system. An H-pipe keeps the majority of the exhaust from crossing over like the X-Pipe. An H-Pipe has been proven over the years to give more mid-range gains, but not as much top end as an X-Pipe.
If you want to best bang for the buck, do as BA said and get a 46T rear. You can use the stock chain if it's still in good shape. Get a SpeedoHealer if you go this route. You will save about $1800 going this route over an exhaust system.
...and there you have it. We brought you full circle from spending $1500 to dropping about $200 (sprocket and healer) and getting what you really want.
Do the sprocket and see what you think. The exhaust can come later and you will notice another difference then.
Do the sprocket and see what you think. The exhaust can come later and you will notice another difference then.
74madvette
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Vance$hines has a nice setup for using two cans.. nhttp://www.vanceandhines.com/product_zoom/sport-cs1slipon/Suzuki/hayabusa/headers/headers.htmlice
Takeuon
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Doug,
I've researched this till I'm blue in the face. I have yet to find a manufacture who lists/offer their system w/ an H-pipe. Off the top of your head can you please mention a couple manufactures that you know off that offer this set-up? Or do we have to get a custom one made like yours?
Thanks!
TruWrecks
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Nobody offers it with the H-Pipe right now. As I stated earlier, they use the X-Pipe config for best top end. I had to have my headers modified for that configuration. I had the H-Pipe section built to replace the Cat collector. It is very far from legal, but we don't have bike inspections here so it doesn't matter too much. The bike will still pass the pipe sniffer test because it runs a bit lean from the factory anyway. I'm still using the O2 sensor as well.
I did see a bit of a gain from the modified headers. With a 41T rear sprocket it dynoed at 106.90 ft/lbs of torque SAE corrected. Factory with a 43T sprocket it dynoed at 108.63 ft/lbs of torque SAE corrected. So if the 41T rear reduces the torque at the wheel about 5%, then a 43T sprocket would be putting about 112.24 ft/lbs to the ground. (Yes, all of this is subjective and may vary from dyno to dyno blah blah blah blah blah.)
The next dyno run will be with this setup:
Modifed H-Pipe header with no cat
K&N race filter
Micron GP Sport slip-ons
Gearing 18/43
BT016 190/55ZR17 rear tire
O2 sensor connected
ECU tuned from 70-100% to get the AFR to 13.2-13.4 from 0-8000, and 13.0 from 8000-redline. Timing will also be adjusted accordingly.
I will post up the dyno results in the dyno section after it is done later this month.
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reggiesweets24
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Listen bro as far as your exhaust issue. I can tell you that the TiForce is a great choice if that is what you decide. I have a Full exhaust TiForce(single can) and it sounds great, Not load but more of a mellow rumble. and you probably already know about the performance . I love it and I'm sure you will to.
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