Flash or Not

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Great, I looked at another map with better views. You're just about in the middle (Windhoek). Is it really 2000 kliks just to the SA border? I saw that east/west stretch from Okahandja to Karibib. There are several isolated areas of our country where the roads are straight and long (Nevada comes to mind). There are even roads in higher population areas where limited high speed runs can be made but those can have severe consequences. I did see a 120 speed limit sign in Namibia but it didn't say where it was. Do you have much of a traffic enforcement effort over there?

 

[Tian]

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A gen2, under perfect conditions, can do 197mph...stock, with top speed limiter removed.
Since his ecu is stock, he is held to 186mph.
Apparently you've never been passed at that speed, as at 197mph(or a faster car), they are walking away from him on top.

Tian, get your ecu flashed, definately.
Have a dyno tune with a full exhaust whenever you can.

Thanks bro for your inputs here!! :-)

Flashing is what i want and going to do-but i have 2 options and want to make sure before i decide what to do.....

The option 1 is to go down to SA and get it done on a dyno or how ever else it can be done.

Option 2 is to buy the flashed ECU and just replace it with mine.

So this brings me back to where my post have started.... if you scroll back to post #6 the ECU i can buy i wrote the specs of it there.

For me to drive down to SA for flashing will cost a fortune i cant afford. Lol. But if that is the only way i can do it to be sure its done correctly and safer i will do it then.

But there is a ecu of an 08 busa available flashed already.
Whats bugging me is that it came from another bike in opposite climate and air pressure/temperatures.
Can it hurt my bike if i fit that ecu riding it in complete opposite climate?


I am sorry if i ask stupid questions. I dont have much knowledge or experience in this part. And as i mentioned in post #1 everybody here in namibia tells me different stories about flashing or fitting a 2nd hand ecu which is why i thought i try here.....

 

[Tian]

That sounds like so much fun, Tian. I wish I had a place like that.

Sounds like you are pretty competitive so you will want every hp you can get. Get your fueling perfect. It doesn't matter a whole lot if you do that with a flash or a module as long as the fueling is correct for your bike and mods. Most people won't be able to feel a difference between a custom tune and a good map that was made with another bike but if you are actually racing, you will probably see a difference.

It is quite a joy my freind! But would not mind for a longer road or 2 with more twisties than there is though.... :-)

Lol i did not mean to appear competitive.... I just gets really frustrated with this limiters. I dont do racing or drags like professionally or at competitions or so. We just go out for fun taking each other on playing and so on....

 

[Tian]

Great, I looked at another map with better views. You're just about in the middle (Windhoek). Is it really 2000 kliks just to the SA border? I saw that east/west stretch from Okahandja to Karibib. There are several isolated areas of our country where the roads are straight and long (Nevada comes to mind). There are even roads in higher population areas where limited high speed runs can be made but those can have severe consequences. I did see a 120 speed limit sign in Namibia but it didn't say where it was. Do you have much of a traffic enforcement effort over there?

Nope.... To the border its about a 1000kliks then you enter Upinghton... Then its about another 1000km until you reach Klerksdorp where the tune shop is. Think its 1950/1980km to be more on the precise spot so you could say 2000km to there and 2000back.

Yeah 120 is our speed limit here on all outside town to town roads.... in town its 60kmh and on bypasses 80kmh.

Our traffic enforcement is a joke. We still have that cameras that only takes your speed. So what i mostly do is just drive pass them. On bypass or towards bypass from okahandja and in town) I once had that phase of searching for speed traps on the bypass, making a uturn and go 200+km over them.... Slag down to see if they are trying to chase me and then speed away. Had a target of 10 that i set to my self and out of 10 they chased me once. They still drive stock Peugots that little sadans and nissan sentras and toyota corralas and pickup trucks (here known as bakkies) so we really mess with them sometimes. They dont have cameras in the cars nothing. So if they dont catch you on the spot they cant really do anything lol. Where we usually take it careful is between towns cause there they contact the next towns police and setup a roadblock and lock you away. But 80% of the time oncoming traffic warns us when speedtraps are ahead and usually when we do get pulled over between towns i would ask if we can solve the problem right here then i just pay them to not fine me. Usually half the price of what the speedfine would have been. The roadblocks in town are quite strict and there you cant pay them off to make the problem disappear. But aslong as your vehicle are roadworthy and everything is working as it should and your not drunk you are good to go. Interesting fact about namibia is that we are one of the smallest populated countries in the world but with one of the highest accident % stats world wide.... Google it :-)


So Nevada caught my special attention. I played a bike game where Nevada was one of the maps.... If i remember correctly from the game it have some breathtaking beautiful scenery.... gonna google it now. Why severe consequences? Strict traffic enforcement in the higher populated parts or is it just to risky to that in higher populated areas?

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

Severe means both traffic enforcement and coming up onto other vehicles at speed. Most places here if caught doing 120+ mph especially with others, your vehicle can be impounded and you risk arrest. If not released before trial on your promise to appear, you then have to arrange release thru posting a bail amount, typically 10% to a bondsman. No possibility of paying the cop at the scene. So, the hassle of being arrested, the cost of the tow and impound, and the cost of bail inhibits some, not to mention increased insurance premiums if convicted and then, the fines imposed and possible suspension of your driver's license. Remote areas in Utah, Nevada and Montana for example, lessen any possible contact with other vehicles or the police. I crossed Nevada one fine day @ about 140 mph on a very remote two lane. I hadn't thought of the increased fuel needed and almost ran out. I know a 70+ mile stretech of two lane that has several 3-4 mile straights that do fine for speed runs just south of Hollister CA. Great riding area. As for "breathtaking beautiful scenery" in Nevada? I've never seen any unless you count vast desert scape as beautiful. Personally I prefer having trees, rivers, lakes and mountains to look at.

 

[sixpack577]

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Thanks bro for your inputs here!! :-)

Flashing is what i want and going to do-but i have 2 options and want to make sure before i decide what to do.....

The option 1 is to go down to SA and get it done on a dyno or how ever else it can be done.

Option 2 is to buy the flashed ECU and just replace it with mine.

So this brings me back to where my post have started.... if you scroll back to post #6 the ECU i can buy i wrote the specs of it there.

For me to drive down to SA for flashing will cost a fortune i cant afford. Lol. But if that is the only way i can do it to be sure its done correctly and safer i will do it then.

But there is a ecu of an 08 busa available flashed already.
Whats bugging me is that it came from another bike in opposite climate and air pressure/temperatures.
Can it hurt my bike if i fit that ecu riding it in complete opposite climate?


I am sorry if i ask stupid questions. I dont have much knowledge or experience in this part. And as i mentioned in post #1 everybody here in namibia tells me different stories about flashing or fitting a 2nd hand ecu which is why i thought i try here.....

No stupid questions.
If you buy a flashed Busa ecu, you need to know it's country code, U.S, Euro, etc.
One country code ecu will not work in a different country code bike.
Euro gen2 Busas also have a factory ignition immobilizer, and a red led bulb next to the ignition key cylinder. U.S do not.
Any gen2 ecu can be flashed, and flashed repeatedly, to a Busa or Bking, and to any country code. Physically, all the ecu's are the same, only the bin file is different, which is in the "flash" itself.
There are no differences in any setting any country code, based on climate. They are All the same.
You will need to check the bike's vehicle idendification number, we call it VIN#
That will help you find out where it was shipped to and sold originally.
Go from there.

 

[Mythos]

Lol i did not mean to appear competitive.... I just gets really frustrated with this limiters. I dont do racing or drags like professionally or at competitions or so. We just go out for fun taking each other on playing and so on....

Haha--well, that is competitive if you ask me. You're racing and you hope to win. Nothing wrong with that! Go with a full system and an AFR tune. Those extra ponies on top will probably make a difference you can see in how you run next to the other vehicle. Ignition timing should give you another edge. A good flash will address that.

 

[ali123]

guys I think in his case if he is after top speed... we are forgetting the OLD SCHOOL TRE devices... thatll give u a derestricted topend withoutswapping ECUs... simple.

 

[ali123]

and I would love to see a modified AMG...

 

[sixpack577]

guys I think in his case if he is after top speed... we are forgetting the OLD SCHOOL TRE devices... thatll give u a derestricted topend withoutswapping ECUs... simple.

TRE's are notorious for causing gremlins in Suzukis.
There are better ways.
There is a $30 switch/sensor that mounts behind the clutch, to get rid of the top speed limiter.
The flash is better in that you get more lower rpm timing, and better STP opening rates and fueling.
Setting the fans on 10 degrees sooner helps too, especially in a hot enviroment.

 

[ali123]

well... he is in Africa.. do u have a place to buy that 30 dollar sensor? ive known lots of guys running tre devices without issues though... for years people ran them... they were simple..... also... he should have a conversation with Gixx1300rr (the nitrous guru) if doing these topend pulls at a high level.... assuming he can find a dentist willing to sell nitrous

 

[Mythos]

A flash can't shut off the TSL then? Does the SpeedoHealer trick work on the busa?

 

[ali123]

A flash can't shut off the TSL then? Does the SpeedoHealer trick work on the busa?

yes.. a flash is the best way(to derestrict).. but this is a special kinda conversation because of the location of the OP.. he lives in Namibia....

 

[sixpack577]

well... he is in Africa.. do u have a place to buy that 30 dollar sensor? ive known lots of guys running tre devices without issues though... for years people ran them... they were simple..... also... he should have a conversation with Gixx1300rr (the nitrous guru) if doing these topend pulls at a high level.... assuming he can find a dentist willing to sell nitrous

I know Boostbysmith has them.
And I think Brocks does too.
It doesn't matter where he lives either, anything can be shipped anywhere.
He can buy an ecu anywhere too, flashed or not, and have it flashed and shipped if it isn't already.
He doesn't want nitrous either, or has made no mention of it.
All that stuff does is ruin engines anyway.
Useless on a street ridden bike, unless you just love it, have tons of money, and can get it filled easily.
An ecu flash is what he needs.

 

[sixpack577]

yes.. a flash is the best way(to derestrict).. but this is a special kinda conversation because of the location of the OP.. he lives in Namibia....

Nothing special about it.
It just takes longer for him to get mail from certain places.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

I have a Tre for him...

 

[busabobh]

I have the Atre on my bike , almost 10 years now. No problems ever, works as advertised. Don’t buy the cheap ones.

 

[Tian]

No stupid questions.
If you buy a flashed Busa ecu, you need to know it's country code, U.S, Euro, etc.
One country code ecu will not work in a different country code bike.
Euro gen2 Busas also have a factory ignition immobilizer, and a red led bulb next to the ignition key cylinder. U.S do not.
Any gen2 ecu can be flashed, and flashed repeatedly, to a Busa or Bking, and to any country code. Physically, all the ecu's are the same, only the bin file is different, which is in the "flash" itself.
There are no differences in any setting any country code, based on climate. They are All the same.
You will need to check the bike's vehicle idendification number, we call it VIN#
That will help you find out where it was shipped to and sold originally.
Go from there.

Aha... Did not know that. Will cotact the guy again and see what he says.
Mine have the red led next to led ignition so that would be the Euro coded one then....
We also work with VIN numbers so maybe even better if i can get that number and then make 100% sure about it all.

 

[Tian]

and I would love to see a modified AMG...

I will make some some calls tomorrow and see if i can get some specs and a picture or 2 of the amg and then i will show you. All i know it belongs to a person of Angola who swims in money and own a couple of service stations lol

 

[Tian]

TRE's are notorious for causing gremlins in Suzukis.
There are better ways.
There is a $30 switch/sensor that mounts behind the clutch, to get rid of the top speed limiter.
The flash is better in that you get more lower rpm timing, and better STP opening rates and fueling.
Setting the fans on 10 degrees sooner helps too, especially in a hot enviroment.

Gremlins like?

If this ECU i want to buy is not gonna work on my bike i will consider the TRE or switch you mentioned for the time been until i save up enough to get to SA for the flash then.

Is the fan switching on 10 degrees sooner also done by Flash or is there another way in doing that?