From 600 to 1300

[2 Buku]

Bodacious TOPIC!!
I am 42 yrs old, I am a world class Martial arts Champion, an acomplished Sensei and I have been practicing SELF DISCIPLINE in the arts for 33 years. I HAVE BEEN RIDING FOR 2 YEARS LONGER THAN THAT!!! After 35+ years of riding and 25+ of them on "the worlds fastest and most powerful bikes",
I would only say that there are 2 main factors. Matching your riding ability to your machine and more importantly excersizing SELY DISCIPLINE. THE LACK OF BOTH IS A DEADLY COMBO!
I have lost two riding buddies to that Combo--SPLATT!
Just food for thought!

2BUKU

PS: In 1993 I broke my back on an 80 cc Kawasaki KX. It is all about respect!

 

[2 Buku]

That is "SELF-DISCIPLINE ( Too many head blows)

2 BUKU

 

[billbell]

Actually, the Busa is the first sprtbike I have ever owned. I have rode smaller sportbikes quite a bit. I bought an 1100 Honda Shadow last year but decided I didn't want a cruiser so I bought the Busa this year. I wanted the best and most unique bike I could afford. I bought and took it easy as I learned the handling and power. If you get it, just don't worry about burying the speedo right away. You eat a lot more rode then you can imagine when you are breaking into the 160 mph range. It deserves alot of respect. Take it slow and she can be good to you.

 

[URBAN COWBOY]

I went from a Yamaha YZF600R to the mighty "Busa" and I can tell you that the "Busa" has so much power that she will corrupt even the most disciplined rider. Just take it easy, take the MSF course, and you'll be all right.

URBAN COWBOY

 

[Nemisis]

If you have the dicipline not to be a maniac and not really not use the throttle for at least a couple months and then in only small incriments you will not have a problem. Most people crash on 600cc bikes than on any other. It is all in the respect you give a bike.

 

[vincent]

If you have the dicipline not to be a maniac and not really not use the throttle for at least a couple months and then in only small incriments you will not have a problem.  Most people crash on 600cc bikes than on any other.  It is all in the respect you give a bike.

More people ride 600 cc bikes than any other.

Thats the same as saying that younger males get in more accidents than females. Who is doing the majority of the driving in this scenario. This is why insurance companies are starting to not make a difference in sex of younger drivers for their rates.

 

[him]

What insurance company is this? I got qoute damn near 15 bucks more a month on an accord than my wife

 

[eynlai]

Okay, this debate have popped up time and time again. Get the Busa, and don't worry about that "it's too much bike for you", "get a tombstone next" opinions. I may buck the system and that belief, so some on this board may not like it. But I'm living proof, in ONE piece, that it can, and has been done!

Me: 140 lb., 5' 9", never owned a bike (not a scooter, not a moped, not a cruiser, not a dirt bike, etc...) before. Silver/Gunmetal grey 2003 Busa from CalCoast Motorsports of Ventura Cali. is my very very first bike. To much of most people's amazement (or amusement), I'm still in one piece and alive. Yes, I ride the busa. In fact, probably more than most people here on this board with however many years of riding experience. I got mine brand-spanking new with 2 miles on it back in March 2004. Now I'm going into 12,000 miles. And I ride in the bad Los Angeles traffic conditions, splitting lanes, dodging idiot cagers, etc... It's my may commute to my office 25 miles away. And even in the bad traffic where I have split lanes, every 100 feet is a pleasure!

Did I take the MSF? You bet. And you can believe me when say I believe that course saved my ass a couple of times.

Have I dropped my busa? You bet. 6 Times (5 zero speed tip overs, and 1 under 5mph in the dealer's parking lot) within that same first weekend I got it. Nothing cracked, nothing broken that wasn't easily replaced (had to replace the clutch lever on that 6th drop). Just scratches on the fairing that I know that can be buffed out and repainted.

So if you really want the Busa... Get it. You got 7 months of more riding experience on it than I did when I got mine. One thing that I can agree on is cough up the $200 for the MSF course and as much $$$ as you can afford on protective gear. Your ass is worth way more than that.

Hopefully, I'll being taking a Advanced riding track coarses by June 2005. One of my co-worker (who rides a 1999 busa) saids he personally knows a professional track instructor.

So get the busa. IF this skinny ass, short little newbie can do it, SO CAN YOU!!

 

[Turbo-Torch]

With only 7 months of experience I would never recommend a Busa, actually I wouldn't even recommend a 600cc sportbike for a new rider.

I don't see a problem with an experienced rider upgrading from a 600 to Busa. The modern 600's put out insane HP and what other bike would you upgrade to first before stepping up to the Busa? The new liter bikes are so close to the Busa there's not much difference...if anything the Busa is 100X more forgiving.

I think Buku got it right about self discipline, no matter how long you've been riding you need it with these bikes. More so with the Busa as you get a false sense of how fast you're really going.

Also to the OP, we don't know you. Try asking your closest friends and family members if they think you should be on a 175 HP bike. I've got friends that I would tell to "go for it" and others that I would do my best to talk them out of it as they are so accident prone they have no business being on a Vespa.

 

[BigDawg_03Busa]

First and foremost we get caught up so much in the time frame during which someone has been riding. While it is important, it is more important to consider how many miles you have ridden.  

Ex. Rider #1 has been riding 1 year with a total of 1500 miles logged.  Rider #2 has been riding 6 months with a total of 4000 miles logged.  Rider #1 can say I've been riding a year, but Rider #2 will "probably" make the jump faster because of actual experience in the seat.

I jumped from Yam 600r on which I had put ~10k miles over the course of ~13 months.  Yeah it was one heck of an adjustment in size, weight and power.  There would be an adjustment from any bike to a Busa and vice versa because they're all different.  While I don't recommend starting on a "Big Boy" bike, I'd sign off on someone looking to make it a second bike if the "riding experience" is there.

Just my .02.  Be blessed.
BD



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[eynlai]

I completely agree with Big Dawg on actual miles vs. time frame. I have a neighbor that has had his R6 for about 2 years now. He put less than 800 miles on it so far. What a waste

In fact, he's afraid to go on the freeway, and will not take it pass 40 mph. Believe me, I've tried to convince him to sell it.

Another person I know got his Buell Lightning "Street Fighter" for about 8 months now. He got his about 2 months after I got my busa. He's got less than 300 miles on it. I like to call it the Lazy Street Bum. He gets pissed.

But it's true. I'm personally proud that I have actually 12000 miles under my belt. I've learned alot about the bike, how cagers drive in L.A./Orange County / Ventura County, and I've learned a lot about myself.

I've ridden in freezing rain for 80 miles from Oxnard back home, in the worst of traffic jam on Sunset in Hollywood on a Saturday night. Can I say I've seen it all and done it all? Hell no!! I know I have a lot more to see and do, and learn.

By the way, I forgot to mention in my earlier post. A lot of members on this board may clash with me on what I post or how I reply to a post. And a few things I may not agree on (such as not having a busa for a first bike). Example: Rev and I can never agree on anything and we're always beating down on each other's view. But all in all, I love these guys/girls and this board.

A lot of things I needed to learn on my own, but alot I got from the postings of this board. Example, hanging my ass out on the inside of a turn, in a knee dragging, etc...

I wouldn't hesitate on buying a anyone here a drink if I ever got a chance to meet him/her. Or have the honor of flying wing next to anyone here. Even if some do hesitate if it was for me.

 

[DAB]

A lot of members on this board may clash with me on what I post or how I reply to a post.  And a few things I may not agree on (such as not having a busa for a first bike).  

A lot of things I needed to learn on my own, but alot I got from the postings of this board.  Example, hanging my ass out on the inside of a turn, in a knee dragging, etc...

Actually, you seem pretty reasonable to me. Anyway, we can't all agree on everything otherwise this board would be pretty boring.

I didn't go straight to a 'Busa, but I did go from a 250 to an 1100 when I passed my bike test (about 300 years ago...)

I learned to ride in all weather because my bike was my only form of transport - couldn't afford a car. Rode that thing in/on snow and ice even (not recommended.)

The main thing that helped me was that I didn't assume I was an expert, I took safety classes and read books, and made sure I had the best safety equipment I could afford. Other than those recommendations I can't tell anyone what age/experience bracket they should be in for any bike.

p.s. dropping your bike in the dealers car park must have been embarassing. The first time I dropped my 1100 was getting it off the center stand on a Saturday morning in the middle of a busy shopping center.

 

[eynlai]

embarassing it was. Clarence, the sales guy, told me he would sleep better that night if my buddy, Ritchie rode it home for me that day. I swallowed my pride and said sure, safety before pride.

One week later, I learned there was a pool on my life at that same dealership on how long I would last. I like to know which one betted on me. He/She probably made out big on the pool.

When I bought it in for first service about 1.5 months later, Clarence seemed glad to see me. He patted me on the back and said, "if you made it this far..."...

I still knock on wood.... still at 12,000 miles later.

 

[busahaya]

It is unbelievable the difference.....words cannot describe it at all....I just brought the bike back to my buddy and said "Damn you need to get a Hayabusa"

That's comedy

 

[Smoke_Dog]

Welcome to the Real World! Glad to have you!



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[him]

Ex. Rider #1 has been riding 1 year with a total of 1500 miles logged.  Rider #2 has been riding 6 months with a total of 4000 miles logged.  Rider #1 can say I've been riding a year, but Rider #2 will "probably" make the jump faster because of actual experience in the seat.

I definatly agree with you on this one. I put 6200 miles on my Katana from march to august.

 

[GOD]

"THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN HANDLE A BUSA......IT'S TOO COOL FOR YOU......IT'S TOO FAST FOR YOU....YOU HAVE TO BE A PRO TO RIDE IT......"Dude, If you think you can handle the busa, do it! I went from a honda nighthawk 750 to a busa and i had only been riding 7 months too........It obviously has more power, but your biggest problem will be getting used to the physical size of the bike and the weight......other than that, the busa will do what you want it, not more......I have at this moment exsactly 9 months of exsperience on the roads of houston tx.........these morons have no idea how to drive in the best conditions, so i have confidence in myself.......but not too much......but i think that's what really matters.......you know what you can do, noone else does!

 

[Jace]

was on a R6 swaped with sprocket and took his busa throught the same roads i was just on the R6 and that was all it took handles little heavy but compfort and power could not be overshadowed by the weight so that was all it took and wound up selling the R6 for busa

 

[PaceMaster]

I have about 270,000miles on street bikes--1973 to present--the Busa corrupts me--the most of all, second to the 900 Ninja----just be straight up and down before pulling the trigger--and expect wheel spin or worse any how--wheelie..WooHoo--Brain wrist control is the answer...

 

[Rocket Rider]

I went from drag racing my 600 f4i all the time (i was running 7.10 in the 1/8th mile)to purchasing my dream bike....04' busa. I have added pcIII, m/t shootout tire, down 1 tooth in the front, and extended it 8" over and just about to add the brock davidson megaphone exhaust to it so I'll be track ready. I am still scared to take it out to the track because the power of the busa compared to a 600 is astronomically difference. Now my 600 was all modified up and was very fast, but did not compare to the power of the busa. I suggest as I am doing....ride the busa and learn the bike as well as its power ability. But most of all respect the bike that you are riding. It will throw you off like a pissed off bull!!! I am only 5'-9" at 155lbs. I am a very experienced rider, but...I am still learning to ride the busa everytime I straddle it! Be safe and just take your time with it, you will enjoy it much better than the 600 you are riding! Just my .02!