Frustrated with Smith & Wesson

[Flicka]

My dad bought a S&W .45 that did something similar. They order parts for it two times and it still jammed. The shop gave him his money back and he bought something else. It may not be the norm but the shop made it right...

That's some good customer service.

 

[skydivr]

Yes, it's fully in battery I watched carefully. Did not get to shoot again will be another week b4 I get another opportunity.

 

[BlondeOnaBusa]

Sounds like a defective gun....you should just bring it to me.

Ya know I was this <> close to being a shooting instructor many years ago. Would have been a great job but I didn't like the guy who owned the company so I passed.

You did say that gun had long trigger pulls right? Lord knows I hate that and that could be part of the problem. Maybe you should let her find one that shes comfortable with. That is the most important thing anyway. What feels right for you isn't always whats gonna feel right for her. I'm sure she will learn to shoot it but you want her to be very confident with it and right now it doesn't sound like she is.

 

[Sous]

I was looking to get a Bodyguard 380 as a carry weapon for myself, but decided on a Kahr CM9 instead. There were a lot of mixed reviews about the Bodyguard and a carry weapon is not something that I wanted questions in. The Kahr has been perfect and is not difficult to conceal at all. I plan to get my wife a pink Kahr 380 for Christmas this year.

If the zombies don't take over in December of course.

 

[skydivr]

Sounds like a defective gun....you should just bring it to me.

Ya know I was this <> close to being a shooting instructor many years ago. Would have been a great job but I didn't like the guy who owned the company so I passed.

You did say that gun had long trigger pulls right? Lord knows I hate that and that could be part of the problem. Maybe you should let her find one that shes comfortable with. That is the most important thing anyway. What feels right for you isn't always whats gonna feel right for her. I'm sure she will learn to shoot it but you want her to be very confident with it and right now it doesn't sound like she is.

While she might do better with another gun, I'm not ready for her to give up on this one until she's put at least 500 rounds thru it. Every gun we've talked about and she's held has advantages and disadvantages. For example:

-She likes my Glock, but I am concerned about the safety/trigger sensitivity when she's drawing it.
-She like the feel of my 1911, but she's NOT prepared for what's gonna happen when she pulls the trigger

Trying to find the best tradeoff between size/stopping power/ease of use/safety.

 

[Sous]

Trying to find the best tradeoff between size/stopping power/ease of use/safety.

Check out the Kahr CM9 which is an affordable model of the PM9. Very compact, light weight, 9mm, 6+1 rounds and a very nice weapon.

 

[GsxrBots]

Check out the Kahr CM9 which is an affordable model of the PM9. Very compact, light weight, 9mm, 6+1 rounds and a very nice weapon.

Just make sure she can rack the slide on it! Kahr's seem to be the tightest slides I've ever encountered..

 

[m_ridgeway]

Just make sure she can rack the slide on it! Kahr's seem to be the tightest slides I've ever encountered..

hit it with your purse next time

never handled a kahr, heard they have some fitment issues though.

 

[Spkrdctr]

First off all autos need 500 rds put through them to make sure they start working fine. Anyone with a new auto and less than one box through it worrying about jams is wasting their time. Just go shoot the crap out of her gun and it will probably start working perfectly. Then when you have it broken in, let her shoot it. Sounds like it just needs rounds put through it. MANY, MANY autos will start firing perfectly once you get some ammo through them. Good Luck!

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

First off all autos need 500 rds put through them to make sure they start working fine. Anyone with a new auto and less than one box through it worrying about jams is wasting their time. Just go shoot the crap out of her gun and it will probably start working perfectly. Then when you have it broken in, let her shoot it. Sounds like it just needs rounds put through it. MANY, MANY autos will start firing perfectly once you get some ammo through them. Good Luck!

Umm out of the box reliability is key. I've never seen a glock, sig, beretta, colt, para ordnance or any other top make need to be broken in. .380 is a caliber that's notorious for having issues though.

 

[papi_ocho]

Glock had that commercial way back when. They dropped it in some dirty water, picked it up and began firing... Glocks can do that.

Every other brand? No so much.

My questions (military leader, weapons handling instructer speaking)

Who cleans it? Lubes it?
When? Before, during, after?
Is it stored dirty?


I picked up a stoeger 9mm for chritmas. Ran 300 rounds thru it the next day. Had a FTE about 200 rounds in.. Quick lube and put another 100 trouble free rounds down. This weekend ran 200 more rounds trouble free.

They sent it back "repaired". Keep in mind anytime the cycle of operation is interrupted damage will occur. If the slide went forward and pinched a shell in the port then burs where made in that area. Now there are brass fragments introduced into the slide. Safe to say they cleaned up something.

We curse the gun reload and fire again...

No no.. Field strip, clean, resemble, reload, fire. Unless of course your playing out tactical simulations.

 

[Shaggy]

Umm out of the box reliability is key. I've never seen a glock, sig, beretta, colt, para ordnance or any other top make need to be broken in. .380 is a caliber that's notorious for having issues though.

All weapons need to be broken in. If it fires perfectly right out of the box, chances are it was built with a lot of slop to help with reliability. This hurts accuracy a little. Sometimes a lot. Beretta and Glock do this. Great pistols. I have both. All of my target variations have had to be broken in before they have fired reliably. This includes Kimber, Glock, Stag, and Barrett. Never trust your life to a weapon that hasn't been broken in properly. Same as a motorcycle. Parts have to wear together for a perfect fit

 

[skydivr]

Gun was clean, I clean after every firing I don't care much for dirty guns. that includes lube.