Gen 1 vs Gen 2

[06dream]

hey all,

After making the mistake of selling my '06 Hayabusa a year ago, I'm getting into one again this year. I had made a deal on a 2008 with 10000kms on it. Price is very reasonable at 7g compared to other locally advertised bikes. The current owner has a story that his brother in law laid it down and they've fixed it with custom paint (owner is a bodyman by trade). They didn't put an insurance claim in for that accident. The right side exhaust pipe is the only thing left to replace/fix, I've told him to forget that because it gives me an excuse to go aftermarket. I took the VIN# and ran it through our licence issuer only to find out that this bike has a salvage title as a registerable total loss. Current owner says he had no idea, that it didn't cross his mind to check the title before he bought it from the original owner. If all that is true, this bike will have been down twice.

Other bike came up today, a 2002 with 8900kms, one original owner, this thing is mint, mint, mint. Bone stock. $5500.

My problem is, how big a risk is a repaired bike? I'm in the process of trying to find out about the original claim to see if I can find out the extent of the original damage. My understanding of the current owners story is the latest fall was skin deep only and the plastics have been replaced and very nicely painted.

Can I get some educated input, gut feelings, pro's and con's to each possible deal? I'm making a deal by this coming weekend or before...

Thanks in advance for all your input!!!

 

[black diamond busa]

I'm sorry but if he bought it with a salvaged title he would know if not he's dumb. So to me that stinks and second I like the looks of the gen1 better anyways.

 

[kromdom]

Nothing against bikes with salvage titles but I personally would never buy one. That 02 sounds good but is this what you really want? Or will you always find yourself "wishing" you got a Gen II everytime you see one.

 

[almosttherebusa]

I'm the opposite, I had a 06 1k.. Swore up and down I'd never own a busa... Hated the tails.. Then gen 2 came out and I loved the tail section and well... A month ago I became the owner of a 08!! The upgraded **** for a reason... U owned a gen 1... Take this as a chance to upgrade to stay up to par with the modern bikes coming out

 

[bigjack7679]

Gen 2. u lookin between & $7500 and 9 k for a good gen 2. I would just wait on the right gen 2. where are you located

 

[1ibandit]

Nothing wrong with a salvaged bike as long as the frame was not hurt in the crash. I own an 07 that I got after a crash. After new forks ( old ones were ok but had a broke tab for the fender) new triple trees, and now plastic. I was on the road again, and straight as can be.
$4500 for the bike 6000 miles
$300 forks
<$100 for triple trees
$620 for painted plastics.

I did spend more for other things I wanted...


But if the guy didn't tell you the truth stay away from it.. Or find the 1st owner....

 

[black diamond busa]

Well I agree nothing wrong with a salvage bike but he was trying to sneak it by to me that means there's something else he's not telling you.

 

[card16969]

if he bought it and it was already salvaged it would have said so on the title so therefore its been done since he bought it.. and as a motorcycle mechanic by trade i personally would not buy a daily rider thats been salvaged.. now a drag strip toy or something after ALOT of inspection would be a different story

 

[chrisjp]

you know .... i have bought cars and bikes...i never really looked at the tittle ... was too excited and when state sent me new one...it stayed in envelope and went in file cabinet..

 

[VIPER]

i also think if he knew and was trying to pull a smooth one he wouldnt have let you have the vin to check mate. also he would have been pressuring you like a mofo.

 

[binx]

He should of known, the title would have had Salvage in bold letters. Their its no way to not know really. I would say something is amiss. Hold your dough and you'll find what you want.

 

[06dream]

Thanks for all your replies. My neighbor is the manager of the Gov't salvage center and says he will run the vin today for me to see if the original claim is still on file. If it is and I can find out the extend of the original damage, that will help me make up my mind. At the end of the day, I know around here it doesn't take much damage for the appraiser to throw a Total Loss assesment on the vehicle. If it turns out that it was just body damage both times, then I'm not to concerned about the title. If it looks as though frames, forks, and other structural things were damaged, I will pass and go with the Gen1.

The current owner didn't give any indications about knowing that the bike had a salvage title. When I met with him, my gut told me he was a straight up guy. He had no problem with me taking the VIN and running a search on it so it seemed like he had/has nothing to hide. If I hadn't checked into it, like one other poster here, might have bought the bike and enjoyed it in complete ignorance of its history, which in essence would have been better than the mental anguish of trying to find out hhe bikes history

I haven't ridden a Gen2, so wouldn't know what I'm missing if I were to buy the Gen1.

 

[2k3Mach]

hey all,

After making the mistake of selling my '06 Hayabusa a year ago, I'm getting into one again this year. I had made a deal on a 2008 with 10000kms on it. Price is very reasonable at 7g compared to other locally advertised bikes. The current owner has a story that his brother in law laid it down and they've fixed it with custom paint (owner is a bodyman by trade). They didn't put an insurance claim in for that accident. The right side exhaust pipe is the only thing left to replace/fix, I've told him to forget that because it gives me an excuse to go aftermarket. I took the VIN# and ran it through our licence issuer only to find out that this bike has a salvage title as a registerable total loss. Current owner says he had no idea, that it didn't cross his mind to check the title before he bought it from the original owner. If all that is true, this bike will have been down twice.

Other bike came up today, a 2002 with 8900kms, one original owner, this thing is mint, mint, mint. Bone stock. $5500.

My problem is, how big a risk is a repaired bike? I'm in the process of trying to find out about the original claim to see if I can find out the extent of the original damage. My understanding of the current owners story is the latest fall was skin deep only and the plastics have been replaced and very nicely painted.

Can I get some educated input, gut feelings, pro's and con's to each possible deal? I'm making a deal by this coming weekend or before...

Thanks in advance for all your input!!!

I'd just hold off for a better deal... I just picked up a 2006 with 3k miles for $6200 that was so clean you could have eaten off it... I'd be worried myself about a salvage title - on if it was fixed right and safe, to resale value later!

 

[SoCal Blur]

What about insurance? If it is a salvage title you may only be able to get liability insurance. If you're thinking about full coverage, you may check with your insurance company to see if they will cover a salvage title bike.

 

[Strife]

Be patient, there will be a bike out there that is right for you. I personally would steer away from that one. Not worth the risk IMO. To easy to turn into a nightmare decision.

 

[kuntreeboy]

Yeah I'd steer away from the salvaged one brother! I know some salvage bikes are ok but I have bought one or two and they all turned out more problems than they were worth! Just my :2cents:

 

[StrtRac3r]

Mine is salvage title, but with that said I would not buy one already repaired. I didn't worry about mine because I have replaced everything. That's the only way to know its done right. Good luck, and don't settle. You'll be happier in the long run.

 

[RedBusarider]

What is your hurry? Why do you have to buy a bike this week?

Unless you like working on bikes MORE than riding them I would wait for the right deal to come along.

It's almost May and there will be more bikes coming on the market.

Rushing into something many times can come with regret. Keep that in mind.

It's called - Buyers Remorse.

 

[Freechance]

The guy didnt know if it had a salvage title.
U would think that would be on the title??
Especially if it was totaled before he bought it..unless he never transferred over the title in his name...
I never had totaled anything so im not really sure how it all works..but lets say i total my bike,would i still have the original title that says its a clean title???only way to tell its been totaled is to run the vin??

 

[GNBRETT]

Nothing wrong with a salvaged bike as long.....

as you plan on keeping it forever cause trying to sell as salvaged bike after spending money modifying it would be foolish cause ull probably get 5 cents on the dollar.