Gen 3 full lean

[Bumblebee]

Honestly, there is no point in comparing to anyone else. We are all at different levels at basically everything we do. The whole point is to keep learning and improving. In my opinion, Anyone riding a motorcycle that is not capable of using all of the tire, lean angle, and turning ability is putting themselves in danger to some degree. Even if you don’t want to ride like that all the time, knowing how to should be a skill you are working towards.

You would not drive a car, plane, boat, ect. And only be able to use half of its turning ability. It wouldn’t be safe. Why do it on a bike?

The old adage of not only knowing your own personal abilities and limitations but those of your bike and roads....

Some roads just aren't suitable for hard riding.

 

[Bumblebee]

Crazy....

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[BigBSBusa]

Crazy....

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That was pretty cool information and graphical representation.

 

[Bumblebee]

You really have to trust your suspension and tires for sure

 

[InfiniteReality]

Honestly, there is no point in comparing to anyone else. We are all at different levels at basically everything we do. The whole point is to keep learning and improving. In my opinion, Anyone riding a motorcycle that is not capable of using all of the tire, lean angle, and turning ability is putting themselves in danger to some degree. Even if you don’t want to ride like that all the time, knowing how to should be a skill you are working towards.

You would not drive a car, plane, boat, ect. And only be able to use half of its turning ability. It wouldn’t be safe. Why do it on a bike?

I understand all of that, but not what I'm asking. Like I said just straight curiosity of simply what a typical person leans, not trying for max, not trying to lean more, just simple curiosity of a comfortable lean angle. Just to see how much less lean I have on the 240, nothing more.

I have the busa and a ZL1, both have duties that they aren't necessarily designed for and neither will ever get the abuse they actually deserve for their capabilities. Camaro is my daily, with car seat and busa is obviously for cruising and not leaning.

 

[jcornwell101]

I've been running Progressive springs in my bikes for a long time and in this bike for years.

I find it very predictable and can go into some complex corners with ease...

However, I'm not pushing it too hard either...

I guess fork springs can go into the oil, chain, tire, brake pad, seat, etc list of things we all have opinions on....

I feel the same way about progressive springs, as I have been running them since 2008. My VFR just like my Hayabusa got the
streetbox treatment from hyperpro. I feel like if you are not going to be installing custom valving and don't want to keep playing
with spring rates this gets you 85% there to a perfect setup if you have the skills to match it.

I feel if you ride at a high level and are trying to get everything out of your bike straight rate springs and custom valving is the way to go.

But, if you are looking to build suspension that is up to anything you throw at it on a budget progressive is the way to go. My bike handles it all well and is very easy to ride. Hyper pro gives you a ball park of what they recommend for settings and you tweak it from there. I have mine set to that if I ride 2 up I go up a turn on the preload up front and in back and it handles amazing. Bike feels a little firm, but compliant and does not dive under hard braking.

 

[Bumblebee]

I feel the same way about progressive springs, as I have been running them since 2008. My VFR just like my Hayabusa got the
streetbox treatment from hyperpro. I feel like if you are not going to be installing custom valving and don't want to keep playing
with spring rates this gets you 85% there to a perfect setup if you have the skills to match it.

I feel if you ride at a high level and are trying to get everything out of your bike straight rate springs and custom valving is the way to go.

But, if you are looking to build suspension that is up to anything you throw at it on a budget progressive is the way to go. My bike handles it all well and is very easy to ride. Hyper pro gives you a ball park of what they recommend for settings and you tweak it from there. I have mine set to that if I ride 2 up I go up a turn on the preload up front and in back and it handles amazing. Bike feels a little firm, but compliant and does not dive under hard braking.

The front forks of the Hayabusa are under sprung if you are on the heavier body weight side to begin with....I could bottom out my stock springs on the highest setting so I had to change my set up.

It's no GSXR but it handles decent for what it is.....

 

[zeepopo2]

The front forks of the Hayabusa are under sprung if you are on the heavier body weight side to begin with....I could bottom out my stock springs on the highest setting so I had to change my set up.

It's no GSXR but it handles decent for what it is.....

Hayabusa is a MotoGp track star!

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

You really have to trust your suspension and tires for sure

He sure knew how to do it.

 

[dcnblues]

The front forks of the Hayabusa are under sprung if you are on the heavier body weight side to begin with....I could bottom out my stock springs on the highest setting so I had to change my set up.

It's no GSXR but it handles decent for what it is.....

I'm 237 in basketball clothes and I am not bottoming the zip tie on the front fork. Spring is pretty much maxed out though. I almost wish I would bottom it so that I would have to replace the springs. I think I'm right on the edge of safety (but so far the front end feels quite good leaned over and pushing it).

 

[Bumblebee]

I'm 237 in basketball clothes and I am not bottoming the zip tie on the front fork. Spring is pretty much maxed out though. I almost wish I would bottom it so that I would have to replace the springs. I think I'm right on the edge of safety (but so far the front end feels quite good leaned over and pushing it).

I'm about 220 in gear and my zip tie touched the bottom....

I was riding pretty aggressive (purposely) in order to test the limits of the suspension.....since then I updated the entire suspension system and the bike is a different handling beast.

The difference between our bikes might be that my brakes were enhanced before my suspension was which I believe overpowered the suspension.

 

[zeepopo2]

I'm about 220 in gear and my zip tie touched the bottom....

I was riding pretty aggressive (purposely) in order to test the limits of the suspension.....since then I updated the entire suspension system and the bike is a different handling beast.

The difference between our bikes might be that my brakes were enhanced before my suspension was which I believe overpowered the suspension.

Oh yeah, same here. Brakes is what will test your zip ties. If you bottoming without hitting the brakes hard that's bad. I slam the front brakes hard as the front tire will hold. Zip tie is about 1/2 inch from bottom casting. Interesting note, my suspension tuner said the forks on the Busa true bottom is not at the casting. He marked it for me. I'll take a photo later and measure it. I always assumed it was at the casting but guess once you disassemble and measure you realize it's now. Guess casting is with the bump stop compressed.

 

[dcnblues]

Oh yeah, same here. Brakes is what will test your zip ties. If you bottoming without hitting the brakes hard that's bad. I slam the front brakes hard as the front tire will hold. Zip tie is about 1/2 inch from bottom casting. Interesting note, my suspension tuner said the forks on the Busa true bottom is not at the casting. He marked it for me. I'll take a photo later and measure it. I always assumed it was at the casting but guess once you disassemble and measure you realize it's now. Guess casting is with the bump stop compressed.

I'm about 220 in gear and my zip tie touched the bottom....

I was riding pretty aggressive (purposely) in order to test the limits of the suspension.....since then I updated the entire suspension system and the bike is a different handling beast.

The difference between our bikes might be that my brakes were enhanced before my suspension was which I believe overpowered the suspension.

That's great info, thanks guys, and maybe indeed the difference. Hadn't occurred to me, will test that out when I get better weather.